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661  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 24, 2013, 02:00:11 PM
That's ok Gary. I was wondering if you would catch that.

Yes, positive on the right and negative on the left if your looking a the battery installed and facing the engine. The pic is correct. ....

Sorry~  Smiley   I started to say something about 'right' and 'left' being relative..  depending on where one was viewing from.. Smiley
662  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: help on a 69' camaro Z28 on: April 24, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
Yeah, what Paul said. Not enough info to make an educated guess if it is the real deal or not. If your really interested in the Huggar Orange Camaro and the VIN didn't match the Yellow Camaro I would grill the person selling them both. Like most will probably say the VIN on both could be just an oversight, but there isn't much to go on for description.
663  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / DZ engine $12,800.00 on: April 24, 2013, 12:13:18 PM
Anyone seen this ad? I emailed to find out what the VIN is on it but was told hard to see it. What week of June Z28 would this fit? Got me curious.

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=52829&cat=8
664  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 24, 2013, 12:03:30 PM
Yes, positive on the right and negative on the left if your looking a the battery installed and facing the engine. The pic is correct. I was thinking of going back to the original side post look sometime since what I have installed now is incorrect and I'll need a new battery in the next year or two. Getting close. I'm going to guess that the reproduction cables offered all have the 5/16 head on both pos. and neg. cables, which is fine with me. As for the current batteries being sold, I'm sure Delco has a decent replacement for the Y77, at least I hope they do.

I was doing some online searches a few minutes ago and just found a post saying that the different size attaching bolts were an issue and were eventually changed. Knowing this will help cut done on the time it will take locating replacement parts, at least for me anyway. If you have the original equipment cables and the extra funds to purchase a known good NOS battery that would be good for some but I'm not that worried about it.

So someone is reproducing the side post battery topper now. I think ALL the stuff I've been reading is a bit dated for the most part. I'll have to look into what is out there.   

1) I think your post is incorrect re the 'terminal polarities'..   See the pix of the Y77 from the CRG info site, attached below.  you can see the polarity is POS on the left, and NEG on the right!
2) Per the CRG information on batteries, the R79 was a HD option to the Y77 (also POS on the left and NEG on the right) per the photos.
3) The original batteries (Y77) used different sized screw threads for Pos and Neg, but I believe all currently available batteries use 3/8" screws.  Note:  The screws inside the cables are removable/replaceable if you happen to have the wrong size and own a NOS Y77, OR the 3/8" screw can be cut down and re-die to 5/16" if needed.   
4) Y77 batteries are no longer made or reproduced to my knowledge, but the R79 is available in reproduction ($340?). and you can buy a R79 battery 'topper' for $49 to capture 'the look'.
I believe the above is accurate as of 'today', and I'm sure someone will correct me if it isn't.. Smiley
665  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 24, 2013, 10:25:40 AM
Ok, I think there are still some unanswered questions here. So what I'm deciphering, for a normal run of the mill June built 69 Z28 it should have received a Y77 side post battery with negative on the left and positve on the right when it left the plant. Is this correct? Was the R79 battery an optiontional replacement and if it was, why?

Something I am also curious about is the reproduction battery cables and store bought batteries. All the cables offered online don't indicate the attaching bolt sizes for + and -. Anyone buy cables lately to verify if the bolt sizes are correct especially if you have an original battery? And what about todays normal store bought batteries, will you be able to use the original factory cables with them?

I think having this info up front would really save us all from buying the wrong parts. What do you think?
666  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 24, 2013, 09:12:32 AM
That's a good pic. The hardware looks darker then what the reproduction looks llike on HBC.
667  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: April 24, 2013, 09:08:59 AM
From what I have read recently the big O were fefore 69 and the small O was 69 and after. As for material differences I don't believe there are any.


I just bought a set of 0 rockers for my 302 and a few of them have a different style 0 some large and some small - I was wondering what the difference was if any?
668  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 24, 2013, 07:28:59 AM
Thanks Jon for giving me the heads up. Hopefully someone with a 69 cover will post a pic or give up some info.



Gary, I am re-reading the thread and I glossed right over the fact that you were asking about the delete plate for a '69. I have to apologize because I had '67-'68 on the brain and the pics I posted were of the radio delete for the earlier cars. Maybe somebody else can help out with your request since I don't have a '69 delete plate. Sorry about that.
669  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: What carb date for my 06A early June Z on: April 24, 2013, 07:24:43 AM
No...it got sniped out from under me at the last second. Man that is upsetting.

Gary, I saw that carb sold for $776; were you the high bidder?
670  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Somewhere alone the line then the side post cables had a change in construction or whatever and went to a different part number I assume. The AIM drawing is dated 4-29  and released 5-13 and the last date noted in the revisions is 7-7-69 which doesn't indicate a change at least on the part numbers. Out of curiosity Gary what date is your car? Mine is 06A and I'm pretty sure it is a first week car based on the VIN. Didn't you tell me it was September in one of your PM's? Wondering if the plant was getting ready for the new models and the new numbered wires were being used then. Something to think about.
671  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 Carb accel linkage and vacuum hardline? on: April 23, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
Hey Gary, 30 years ago we didn't know any better. I bet a lot of thing's went straight into the G file. Finding the stuff like you have after 30 years is great. I can actually see what is missing from my car.

Thanks John!
I was looking for your photos earlier, but couldn't find them searching.. Smiley
When I removed some of those parts, I wasn't expecting it to be 30 yrs before I used them, or I would have boxed/labeled them.... Smiley
Gary
672  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
This ebay auction is what really got me into looking deeper into the side post batteries and cables. Are the part numbers different for factory installed versus over the counter or...? 69 AIM page 162 UPC 12 A11 has positive cable part number 6297683 and negative part number 6297650. The part numbers on the cables in the auction are different than the AIM. Just curious what is correct?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Z28-survivor-battery-cables-X77-after-5-69-302DZ-6297684AS-6297651AV-gm-/330741859104?hash=item4d01c04320&item=330741859104&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_425wt_1043
673  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 23, 2013, 10:48:09 AM
Danny...you haven't sent it yet? Come on man...lets be gettin on the ball. Just kidding dude. Just throw it in a Priority box and let it go.


Hey, just an FYI... The bracket I am selling has that same font. It's got the 2 capital A's, and the lower case baby c. So AAc... Now if I can get the time to get it packed and shipped...  Undecided  ... Danny
Hey, just an FYI... The bracket I am selling has that same font. It's got the 2 capital A's, and the lower case baby c. So AAc... Now if I can get the time to get it packed and shipped...  Undecided  ... Danny
674  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 23, 2013, 10:06:13 AM
Great. Thanks Kurt.
675  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 23, 2013, 10:04:34 AM
So the big headed screws are fine to use. Gary, I bet the paint is covering your stamping really well if you said the paint was on it thick.

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