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631  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Starter nose for Z28 starter on: May 02, 2013, 07:03:43 PM
I put a bid in. I do need it. I don't think anyone that has one will let it go. They haven't so far.


Very nice part.
Good luck with that auction.
632  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: new guy intro on: May 02, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
You would think that this kind of thing would be standard procedure across the board for every state. Sometimes I think they get a sick pleasure watching people jump thru hoops. "Hey buddy, I think your car is stolen. I'll have to confiscate it until you prove it's ownership". In this day and age your guilty until proven innocent.
633  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: new guy intro on: May 02, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
This title law is loose in some states and tight in others. Some states require it and some don't, kind of confusing if you ask me. Here in Delaware it don't matter how old the vehicle is, you get a title and it has to be registered, and the killer is, it has to pass emissions if it came with it on it. I had to tag my Z antique just so I wouldn't have to take it thru inspection each year. Smog parts are MIA for my car. I had to jump thru hoops for it to pass too.

I bought a 68 Firebird 400 from a guy in Georgia, only had a bill of sale. When I went to title it in Delaware I had to get the guy I bought it from to get some form of paper work sent to Delaware DMV saying it that is was legal in Georgia and the guy really owned it.   
634  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 02, 2013, 01:11:35 PM
Yes, lube and lube and lube and lube.
635  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Starter nose for Z28 starter on: May 02, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
Check this out fellas.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/67-69-Camaro-Z28-302-NOS-GM-Aluminum-Starter-Housing-Assembly-68-Z-28-JL-8-/130900555917?hash=item1e7a47f88d&item=130900555917&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_2591wt_1088
636  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 02, 2013, 10:40:52 AM
I've seen both, but I don't think chevies had grooved ones installed, those were more aftermarket. Just like Lynn said, I have heard it was ok as long as there are no problems with the surface of the rocker socket and the ball face, this information coming from some really old engine builders I knew growing up in Atlanta too.


Gary I would try to keep them matched up. on a side note the set i just got have groovedballs for better lubrication, all SB i have seen prior were not like this - OE or A/M? I can get some pics up later if needed I assume they are A/M 
637  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 02, 2013, 10:34:20 AM
Yes I was. I'm a fanatical solid lifter fan since I was able to sit behind a wheel and drive, especially four speed cars. I was 10 when I got to move my first big tracker and trailer truck for my dad and 12 when I was able to drive a 4 speed hotrod on the road and in traffic (my dad wasn't pleased with those guys who let me). Since then any slight ticking sound coming from the rocker covers, I was in there and still am.

the rockers with the triangle are they also high performance rocker arms ?
That is correct.   Chevy sold them over the counter for many years.
Have compared three different looking "O" sets (litte, big and sideways) with a "V" set side by side with calipers and micrometers, and can find no appreciable difference among any of the four.

Gary.  I always keep ball and rocker in sets.   But... I would not be afraid to use a set that had been mixed.  Just get them really clean, install, and reset your valve lash after initial run in and again in 500 miles (which you were going to do ANY WAY, right?)
638  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Starter nose for Z28 starter on: May 02, 2013, 10:23:45 AM
Thanks Lynn. I was assuming that the open nose would be fine. All the starters I have were at one time used on Chevy and Pontiac engines the past 30 years as spares. All have an open nose tip and all where either on an automatic or a manual shift car. All I did was switch noses around to Chevy or Pontiac for it's application and install new brushes and install. I do want to get a dedicated starter nose for my Z starter though with the covered tip, but Chevy says discontinued, at least online and the local here in Smyrna. So if anyone has a used one I'll take it.

I am currently using a gear reduction starter and want to continue using it, but if it ever fails I at least have the Z starter to fall back on as a reserve. Can't be too careful, always have to have a 'Plan B'. I am doing the same with my distributor as well. I have a Dave's Smallbody HEI set up to the Z specs specified by members here and on TC that I am using, but I also have the original 480 all done up the same and ready to drop in if I ever run into any trouble. Had that happen once already when the Mallory I was using destroyed the cam and distributor gears. I was only 4 miles away, but what if you were 25 or more?



Gary:

Ideally, on a stick shift car you want the nose closed.  As your clutch wears, all the dust that is created flys around inside the bell housing.  No issue in an auto, but the debris can enter the end of the nose and contribute to wearing out the bushing.  Of course, even with the nose closed, the debris can enter from the other side, so I am not sure how much difference there would be long term in the real world.

Having said that, if you find an open nose that otherwise fits, it will work fine.  That bushing is really easy to replace, and even easier on an open nose starter.   I wouldn't hesitate to use an open nose for now, and keep a look out for the correct nose down the road.  One will turn up.
639  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Starter nose for Z28 starter on: May 02, 2013, 08:57:41 AM
Hey guys, I posted on this subject at TC but I wanted to touch base with you all here as well. Not even sure I'm allowed to do this on CRG and I find it's more of a request and questions too. Is it neccesary for that tip on the aluminum starter nose to be closed? I found that I have a BOP(driver side installed instead of passenger side) aluminum nose on the Z starter I have. It is for the 153 tooth flywheel and has the straight across mounting bolt holes. It does however have the tip open so you can see the very end of the armature rod where the bearing is. All the spare starter noses I have are open this way. Are these broken or are they built this way? I know I'll have to remove the Pontiac nose for a Chevy nose when I rebuild the starter, so I tried to order one from GMPARTSDIRECT and found they are discontinued. Anyone have one to sell? or can I use the open tip nose?
640  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 02, 2013, 08:38:42 AM
Just out of curiosity, I have heard it's best to keep the same pivot ball to the same rocker. Are there any exceptions or is it a must to get new pivots? Mine are all mixed up in a box, all look fine with no blueing, cracks, galling or score marks. I'm using roller tip stamped steel 1.5's at the moment and probably will continue using them when I finally pull the 350 and install the 302, but what if I did go back to the 'O' rockers?
641  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 02, 2013, 08:00:34 AM
Honestly,don't really know anything about them. Mostly installed on low performance engines. Just a guess though but probably didn't get a process that the 'O' rockers received.
642  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 0 rocker arms BIG or small 0 ? differences? on: May 01, 2013, 10:20:12 PM
Exactly what I have too.



Umm, let's see some O's.....

70 Z/28

72 LT1

11A 69Z small O sideways

Mixture of O's

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643  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Spark plug shields on: May 01, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
You couldn't have said it any better brother...I mean Rich. Inquisitive minds want to know. Nice to meet you too sir. I love this place.


Gary I'm Rich good to meet you! I have updated my signature thanks four your help on my Rocker Question and funny I was just looking the other day on the shield information - I think we are all here to help each other Lord knows i need alot  Grin
644  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Spark plug shields on: May 01, 2013, 12:55:06 PM
Unbelievable. I DID a search and didn't find that post. Great pics. Thanks, uhhh...'your name here' for the help. I just picked up the shields since mine were MIA and didn't want to just install them willy nilly. Mine are just like what shows in the pic of Jon Mello's. I was about to remove the orange paint, but I'm glad I stuck it out and posted my question. Man this is great detail stuff.



645  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Spark plug shields on: May 01, 2013, 12:50:02 PM
Thanks John. Right there under my nose. I found a pic of member lcmc's Z on ebay and it shows the shields partially so I think I got the idea which was on what side anway.
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