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556  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 19, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
Hey guys, anyone know what would be the screws needed to install the radio delete cover? I found a number in the 69 AIM and tried to find it on the AMK website and it is not listed. HBC don't offer the screws and washers by themselves either. I was thinking maybe the same screw that is used to attach the Camaro name plate with the grab bar on the dash over the glove box but the washers would be too small.
557  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 19, 2013, 05:13:42 PM
When I joined ebay in 1999 it was really easy to find what you wanted to a specific vehicle. Now it seems there is so much trash stuff it takes hours to weed through it all. 1969 Camaro or 69 Camaro is all anyone would need to put in search and that was that. Heck, there are probably more auctions for the little gas and oil signs than anything else. I hate it. Ebay needs more filtering.


....  I wonder if it was used on any other vehicles besides the Z28. Ever notice how high prices are for Z28 parts? Man, these people are holding these parts hostage and asking ransom type money like we're all zillionaires. 
.. and there are a TON of parts 'misrepresented' to be '69 Z28' parts... on ebay.   Let the Buyer Beware!!  If you do a search for '69 Z28 original used parts'..  you get parts for Fords, GM back to 1928, etc..  Smiley  *Everyone puts '69 Z28' in as one of their keywords, regardless of what the part is for...
558  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 19, 2013, 05:05:15 PM
I often heard that all the GM car manufactures used the same paint for that particular year but all had their own name for it. For an example in 69 my Judge was one for the initial 2000 built with Carousel Red and Chevrolet called it Hugger Orange. I don't know for sure because I have never seen the 2 cars together side by side if there was a difference. Weren't the colors available across the board for any GM vehicle?
559  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 19, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
So your car doesn't have there original cables either I'm guessing. Yeah, I'm reading somewhere in May but was it an across the board change or phased in, and all the top post were used up and the side post were installed when that happened. Seems confusing to have both going on at the same time. I don't think this is something we want to assume either way is it? 


Not sure of the exact date, but I was told my 05A Z should have side terminal battery.
560  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 19, 2013, 11:04:05 AM
I bought a front license plate bracket from member Dannystarr. He says it has the AAC on it but neither one of us was for sure if original GM. Thats why my post. Danny though maybe JohnZ would let us know for sure. I'll let ya'll know when I get it what's on it.
I was going to bid on that one on ebay, it only went to $26.01, but Dannys seemed more authentic.

The brake booster bracket, $125.00, that's expensive. I wonder if it was used on any other vehicles besides the Z28. Ever notice how high prices are for Z28 parts? Man, these people are holding these parts hostage and asking ransom type money like we're all zillionaires. 
561  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Battery Side post or top question on: April 19, 2013, 10:49:53 AM
I was doing some reading just now and touched on the battery write up. Was there actually a firm date as to when the side mount battery was installed? I clearly don't have a clue what came in my first week of June 06A Z since the cables in it aren't originals. I haven't decided whether or not I want to get the spring ring cabes. I heard they can get damaged if not properly installed or removed. The side mount on the other hand does look cleaner and easier to R & R.
562  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 19, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
Now that's funny. I had to chuckle on that one. FORD=Found On the Racetrack Dead


back in the trans am days i would go to the races as a guest of chevy and they would send me over to the ford pits to see what i could find out. i remember reporting back one time that bud moores mercury's had a oil pan failure,the oil pan failed to hold in the parts that came loose in the engine.   Grin
563  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 18, 2013, 06:00:08 PM
That's good to know Chick. Now I have to go look for a booster hose bracket and loose the reproduction one I have. Never ending details.


Is the AAC stamp only for 69?

Mike

Nope, '68 license plate brackets are stamped "AAC" too.

Paul

AAC (mfg. stamping) was stamped on several parts so when you see that it is a GOOOOOOOD sign. Smiley
Another quick example where the ACC is stamped is on the 68/69 Z/28 power booster vac. hose bracket. 
564  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 18, 2013, 05:50:50 PM
Lynn, I got ya. How old are you? I hit 60 this year myself.

The white could be a fine line for like or dislike for some. Wasn't white or black use for the frost green 69 Camaros? I was thinking in those terms actually. Black and silver always go together, same as Black and gold. My first Z in 74 was Black but I went with gold stripes. Looked good. A friends Z was black with silver stripes. That looked good too. Orchid with black top is fine I think without the stripes. Without the purple tint, orchid is similar to Cortez Silver, so the black stripes would look good too. I've only seen orchid on a few cars that didn't have stripes. 67 Firebird, 65 Impala and a 65 GTO. Hmmmmm.


Yeah, what Kurt said.  Share some of the details Clem.  I am just happy to have a guy on here older than me.   And I mean that with the utmost respect.

Gary.  I just don't see this one with white vinyl and white stripes.   Just not enough contrast.   And frankly, I never cared much for the Carolina Blue car.   I have a friend that had a - - Carolina Blue SS with white vinyl top and white hockey stripes.  Didn't do much for me.

Sometimes you just need some contrast.    That is what makes your silver Z stand out.   For instance, ever see a Fathom Green car with black vinyl top and black stripes?   You almost can't see the stripes.   I also don't care for the DY with white striping.  On the other hand, DY Z/28 with black top and stripes is killer, as in killer bee!!!

And lastly, the absolute most beautiful Z/28 I have ever seen was a special order 67.    Tahoe Turquoise with black vinyl top and WHITE  stripes.   I know the black vinyl was supposed to automatically change stripe color.   I spent a lot of time in that car in high school.   Was a GM exec car that went to the exec's' son and was purchased here in Oklahoma City as a used car on a Ford lot.


Sorry sorry sorry for the hijack.  I am blaming Gary.  He asked.
565  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 18, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
Mike.

Not sure on the other years. There is one on ebay for 69 with the old school part number sticker and the plate has AAC stamped in it. Looks to be on the front side.

Is the AAC stamp only for 69? I can check my 67 when I get home.
Where is it stamped?

Mike
566  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Front license plate bracket question. on: April 18, 2013, 02:31:53 PM
Anybody know how to tell the difference between a GM front license plate bracket and a reproduction? I have a chance to buy a GM bracket but seller can't say for sure if GM. There is AAC stamped on it.
567  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 17, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
Hey Lynn. How about white top and interior, houndstooth or standard, with white stripes. Wouldn't be any less unigue then the Carolina Blue Z28. As Marlon Brando would say, "Gotta have style, gotta have class..."


I never weighed in on this.

But.... I love the color (ESPECIALLY with the Black vinyl top), and would have painted it back exactly as it is being painted.   However, given that black top, I would really really be tempted to add black stripes.

As far as the disagreements, well, hopefully we can just agree to disagree.

What a great car.

BTW, didn't read the whole thread, but the earlier Pontiacs that used this color called it Iris Mist.  Saw a Bonneville painted that color and it was killer.


568  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoration/ vs preservation on: April 16, 2013, 11:22:55 PM
If it was mine, I would fix all the rust damage and still use all the original parts that I could and what I couldn't I would find. Restoring is fine for some but not for me. Way too much money goes into restoring and then your afraid to drive it later. Heck, I'm afraid to drive mine during the day. I like driving it at night. Not alot of idiots out there to slam into you.  I have a wife and kids and grand kids that all come first, but when I had enough of them I have my car, good ole Betsy.

Throw your name in the hat for my car??? Is someone raffling off my car behind my back?


69Z (Gary) I agree to a point I guess. Theres a mustang in the paint bay next to mine where I do alot of the work before the painter finishes it. The owner found it in a field and wanted to restore it. The short version is as of now due to finding more and more rust and its not even close to paint because they are still assembling it. Theres about 2% original parts! I think the main firewall is there and not even all of it. Now what is this? Preservation? Restoration? or a new car? This is my point.
BTW can I throw my name in the hat for your car too? LOL
569  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
Yeah. My wife for one has a very hard time distinguishing colors. When gets her clothes ready for work she always asks me if this matches. Her view of colors is not the same as mine.
570  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
Looking at the pic from where I sit it looks like the paint has a lavender tint to it. My 69 is Cortez Silver with 3 different paint jobs on it but the door jambs have never been touched. Looking at the old paint in my garage under inside lighting and then outside looks way different, but it doesn't look like it has that same tint in the pic. Without being there to see the original color it is really hard to tell what it is. Just my thoughts. Even in KurtS pic it obviously looks Cortez Silver or whatever that silver is, but has a tint to me.

Question, if Cortez Silver was available why would it be painted Silver and have a - B? From what I understand from reading and research the Dash could mean anything. In this case no stripes. I have seen a Dark Blue or whatever the blue that the factory used, on a 70 Chevelle SS with -  - on trim plate also. Car had no stripes.  I don't see an issue here about paint, but what I see mostly is DISRESPECT for a fellow car enthusiast.  


Here's a clear photo with the roof rail track removed from the pillar area showing the original silver color.  Does not look like Evening orchid to me?
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