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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 04:02:15 PM
Gary, If I had witnessed all those cars being shredded,like you, I would still be in intense psychotherapy,lol. As a teen though and without that perfect hindsight, running a crane was probably totaly fun and cool.

Hey B I was a rubber necker in the biggest sense. Always looking for possible good parts but there wasn't. One thing I didn't like was how these bodies were stacked. Aisles and aisles and rows and rows. If there was ever a strong wind I wouldn't want to be in between the aisles. There was some leaning action going on. It's been at least 45 years since I worked there, I was 16 going on 17 in 69 and working that crane was great. I wanted to stay at that job forever, but I was always getting into trouble with the law and at home and finally left home. Eventually joined the Air Force. Atlanta was great for me, lots to do, Delaware sucks, no comparison. My intense psychotherapy was getting away from home.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
It would be tough for me to watch a 64 GTO get shredded, even if it wasn't mine. In fact when I look at those old photos with 50's and 60's 4 doors and 2 doors alike stacked in junkyards and think of all the cool cars that got crushed, and all the parts cars and trim that could have been utilized.

When you mentioned it getting shredded, it made me think of the scene in Gone in 60 Seconds where they pick up that nice challenger with the claws, and then you see the chunks of metal coming out the other side....

Some bodies got cubed and some got flattened. The cubed metal went directly to a smelter, I think, never had any hands on with that but the flatten cars went to a shredder. Once in the shredder, which had titanium hammers rotating horizontally, similar to the beaters on a cake mixer, one set rotated clockwise and the other set rotated counter clockwise and the flattened, and sometimes not flatten body was dropped in between the hammers and what a noise it makes. Underneath are conveyer belts that separated the magnetic and non magnetic material. The magnetic didn't need hands on but the non magnetic did, so there where workers that separated the trash material from the aluminum and S.S. It's amazing when a car goes thru with a gas tank still in it. There were welders out there every day fixing that shredder at the end of the day.
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 03:35:04 PM
No, don't have it. Growing up in Atlanta my first car was a 64 GTO 4 speed at 16. Bought it off a high school friend with a spun bearing for $125.00 in 1969. Had a mechanic friend fix it while I was pumping gas at the local Chevron across from my parents house during the summer. Got it all fixed up and got into a boat load of trouble with it and my dad took the keys and had the car shredded into little tiny pieces while I watched. My dad managed an aluminum plant and this car shredding plant for Max and Bobby London Inc, some old Navy friends. After seeing that my new job was running a pedestal crane 60 feet in the air dropping cars into that shredder. I was 17 that summer. Oh, I had one car explode when someone below didn't tell me the gas tank was still in it. What a bang. 

OMG..   shredded?  literally?   '64 GTO was one of my favorite cars of the mid-60's...  a HS classmate had one, and  I will remember forever his passing the school bus (that I was riding home in) .. full bore, cutouts open...  I didn't care for that fella, but I loved his car.. Smiley



Yes sir Gary, in tiny little pieces. I went to get something out of the trunk and it was gone. I went to work with my dad that Saturday and it was sitting in front of the crane all prepped and ready to drop in the shredder. A few things have to be removed beforehand mainly the gas tank. I learned a lot about the shredding business from then on. The shredder was no joke. I just found out recently the HS buddy I bought my car from was murdered a little while back according to another HS friend. That was sad to hear.
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 03:23:58 PM
No, don't have it. Growing up in Atlanta my first car was a 64 GTO 4 speed at 16. Bought it off a high school friend with a spun bearing for $125.00 in 1969. Had a mechanic friend fix it while I was pumping gas at the local Chevron across from my parents house during the summer. Got it all fixed up and got into a boat load of trouble with it and my dad took the keys and had the car shredded into little tiny pieces while I watched. My dad managed an aluminum plant and this car shredding plant for Max and Bobby London Inc, some old Navy friends. After seeing that my new job was running a pedestal crane 60 feet in the air dropping cars into that shredder. I was 17 that summer. Oh, I had one car explode when someone below didn't tell me the gas tank was still in it. What a bang. 


Back when kid's didn't call there Dad's bluff !  Sorry, not funny...but the story does make me chuckle!   good one

Yeah, I wasn't laughing. He was a fairly decent boxer and we, my brothers and I, were always sparing with him growing up, he was a tough cookie. Wore his bare back hand a few times.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do You Still Have Your First Car? on: June 28, 2014, 03:51:50 AM
No, don't have it. Growing up in Atlanta my first car was a 64 GTO 4 speed at 16. Bought it off a high school friend with a spun bearing for $125.00 in 1969. Had a mechanic friend fix it while I was pumping gas at the local Chevron across from my parents house during the summer. Got it all fixed up and got into a boat load of trouble with it and my dad took the keys and had the car shredded into little tiny pieces while I watched. My dad managed an aluminum plant and this car shredding plant for Max and Bobby London Inc, some old Navy friends. After seeing that my new job was running a pedestal crane 60 feet in the air dropping cars into that shredder. I was 17 that summer. Oh, I had one car explode when someone below didn't tell me the gas tank was still in it. What a bang.  
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Purpose of this bracket?? on: June 27, 2014, 03:59:34 PM
Let's see what we come up with.

69Z28-RS        09C       NOR      Z28      Has Bracket
Hans L              ?         VN         ?         No Bracket
69Z28             06A      NOR     Z28        Has Bracket
Bryan302         05A      NOR     Z28        No Bracket


Hi Bryan I added the missing data for mine.
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 26, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
A couple of pics - flat tip original is on the bottom in one pic, "GM 6041" is the other.

The other sticks are NOS earlier ones, including the grey tip that came in the box with my 1969 dated NOS 302 pan.

Regards -

My green tip finger grip is formed like the top two.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 26, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
My 70Z LT-1 has the green tip dipstick.

Does it have the dimple in the neck of the finger grip and same stamp as my first post or something different altogether? I'm leaning towards mine being either a later stick or an over the counter. Might have to hit the  second gen NastyZ boys and ask what they have to know for sure.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Purpose of this bracket?? on: June 25, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
Probably there to hold up that end of the muffler? I thought I just saw recently the tail pipes were welded to the muffler OEM? Was there a bracket attached to the frame rail on the passenger side for single exhaust?

 Hey Gary, look on the driver side, I assuming yours is passenger side? There should be a bracket there too. Here is a pic of the one on my car driver side I noticed when I dropped my gas take a few years ago. If I'm looking at the orientation of your pic that should be drivers side correct?
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 25, 2014, 08:38:45 PM
Yes I have read and participated in that thread but it abruptly stalls. I'm going to assume that it's either for a much later small block or service replacement. I haven't actually bought anything over the counter, I'm thinking it came from one of the small blocks I collected sometime in my life, or somebody gave it to me. I do see that there is a big difference though in the stamping on the stick plus that small divot on the "factory" green tip. I'll mark it as small block over the counter.   
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Green tip dipstick on: June 25, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Anybody ever determine if the green tip round finger grip dipstick was ever used on the 69 DZ engine? I found one I had stashed away and remember this being touched on at some point. The handle has the indentation on the neck of the handle and this is on the stick. Just curious. This could probably be used on any number of small blocks I'm thinking if not used on the DZ engine. The one for my engine has the flat finger grip.

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42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 23, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?



On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.


Steve, you mean this fitting kit correct? Shouldn't be an issue using the nylon oil line. I'm thinking the oil line kit I got from Ricks in 2000 has the small ferrule already on the oil line as apposed to the bigger one your speaking of on the current oil line kit. Or should I use a new ferrule? 

See how deep the ferrule seats. The concern I had was only a couple of threads caught so I used the ferrule from the kit pictured. Sounds like you should be good to go....


And all this hinges on getting the reproduction block fitting from HBC or getting lucky enough to find an original...somewhere. Damn, thought we had this all worked out last year.
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 23, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?

On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.


Steve, you mean this fitting kit correct? Shouldn't be an issue using the nylon oil line. I'm thinking the oil line kit I got from Ricks in 2000 has the small ferrule already on the oil line as apposed to the bigger one your speaking of on the current oil line kit. Or should I use a new ferrule? 
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 23, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting on: June 23, 2014, 03:00:45 PM
Gary, I think Dave's first pic has the cap screwed on/assembled and the last 2 pics separated.
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