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61  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Stripe dimensions for Baldwin Motion? on: October 07, 2013, 08:20:17 PM
Hey guys,

I am painting my 69 with the Baldwin Motion paint scheme, complete with rear wing and stinger hood. It will have the center stripe down the hood, roof and trunk, with the wrap-around on the back end, and the hockey stick stripes on the side. 

If anyway can tell me the measurements or where I can find this info, I would greatly appreciate it.  For example, how wide is the single stripe?  How far up does the rear wrap-around stripe go, etc.

62  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Seatbelts from other vehicles adapted to Camaro? on: October 07, 2013, 11:17:58 AM
Has anyone properly adapted a shoulder harness seatbelt from another vehicle into a first gen Camaro?

Can a 2nd gen Camaro seatbelt bolt up to the ceiling (even with a little modification) and the plastic cover used to hide it.  Has anyone done this and how does it look?

What about from an entirely different vehicle?  Most of the newer cars have the seatbelt (roller/actuator) are mounted on a pillar, and the seatbelt goes up toward the ceiling, wraps around some pulley type arm, then comes down to bolt onto the floor or the side of the seat.  Where can we mount the roller so that the pendulum still works properly?  I was thinking under the seat, but this throws the angle off and the seatbelt stays locked up. 

I do not want to spend the hundreds of dollars for the morris setup when I have access to hundreds of late model vehicles from all the junkyards in my area, and Ican get just about any set for $10.  Surely I can make something work.  So, has anyone had any success with a particular model or adaptation process? 

63  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dash Vin and title match but protecto plate and engine code do not? on: October 07, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
I have to admit, that extra digit on the VIN plate is one of the coolest factory mistakes I have seen.  How did they not catch this?  So, I have to ask, what was the process for setting up and changing the VIN plate die?  I used to think it was like the bank rubber date stamps where they would spin the dial place of the digit and the next number would come to the front.  From what this mistake shows me, it appears the numbers are removed and replaced with the next die.  Here, the factory worker slid out the ...532, mistakenly removed only one of the 5's, left the other 5 on the press machine, then grabbed an extra 5 and slid it back in place along with the two 3's, and BANG, pressed out the VIN we see today.  The fact that it was never caught and made it out of the factory with the paperwork reflecting the mistake means that more than just one guy dropped the ball here.

I know that misstamped coins make for higer value and collectible status.  Wonder how this affects the value, it at all.  In the very least, cool story.  I will say, if I didn't see the photo of the VIN, I would question this person's eyesight and was sure he was not reading the VIN right.  However, seeing the actual VIN confirms it.  If I was buying this car and saw this VIN, I would shy away and assume someone was trying to pull a fast one.  I would also want to know where the other 2.5 million Camaros were.

64  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Exhaust Alignment Sleeves on: October 06, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
Thanks!!!   I never knew these existed but have needed something like this for some time now.  I was actually using the larger Ford ones due to the fact my passenger pipe never aligned properly.  the tube is just slightly cockeyed from the manifold and never lined up perfectly.  Thus, I would burn through the donut every 6 months or so.  I just bought my donuts by the dozen (really!!) and just made it part of my maintenance schedule.  This should solve that and I will hopefully install my last donut....mmmm donuts. 

Thanks again for the heads is greatly appreciated. 
65  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Where can I find Baldwin Motion emblems? on: October 06, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
I'm looking for a pair of Baldwin Motion fender emblems for my 69, but all I can find is a sticker on ebay that looks like the emblem.  I'm not looking for NOS as I am sure it would be darn expensive and would be happy with a repro set.  Anyone making these?
66  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Headliner Windlace Pinch Molding Trim on: September 30, 2013, 10:36:31 AM
Hey guys,

Anyone have any insight on the quality and looks of aftermarket pinch molding windlace trim for the headliners?  Is the aftermarket stuff the same, similar, or any good?  Should I look for original pieces or will this aftermarket offering do okay?

67  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What is the quality of reproduction windshield and rear glass chrome moldings? on: September 26, 2013, 01:04:40 PM
According to D&R Classic, they use a company called Tri Plus for their chrome moldings.  Has anyone had any experience with these?  How would they compare to CHL or OE?

68  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What is the quality of reproduction windshield and rear glass chrome moldings? on: September 25, 2013, 07:29:34 PM
Okay, I received the complete front and rear sets and here is what I have found.  They are horrible.  I did not buy the cheapest set out there.  I even asked personally, about the quality and was assured these were as claimed in the ad.  They are CHL brand, and advertised as "Show quality sets include original thickness polished stainless steel and are technically correct.". 

These are not show quality or polished.  I took my original set that are scratched to hell and dented and dinged, put a quick 20 second rubbing of Wenol polish on them, and they are way brighter than these reproductions.  These new pieces, even after being polished with Wenol polish, are a dullish gray with some typing of fine hazed lines embedded into the metal.  Also, they are nowhere near OE thickness as claimed.  For example, I took two same pieces and weighed them.  The OE piece was 2.8 oz, whereas the reproduction piece was 2 oz.  I then took my digital caliper and got .020 inches on the OE and .015 on the repro piece.  So, I can only conclude the CHL pieces are false in their claim.  These will have to be returned as they are NOT show quality, nor even close to looking like OE.

I visited D&R Classic and they have a set that is about $100 more that they claim is superior to all other reproductions and also claim show quality, OE thickness and new tooling.  I was told they are not CHL, so I will order these and report my findings. 

How is it we have advanced 45 years in technology, and cannot reproduce a simple strip of stainless molding?

69  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What is the quality of reproduction windshield and rear glass chrome moldings? on: September 12, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
Okay, I went ahead and bought both front and rear sets from Matts Classic Bowties.  They stated that these are not the Corvex cheap ones and instead, the Golden Star brand and are the same thickness as OE, and stainless steel as opposed to polished aluminum, are show quality and technically correct.  Has anyone had any experience with these from this manufacturer? 

I will keep you guys posted on what I find out. 


70  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What is the quality of reproduction windshield and rear glass chrome moldings? on: September 11, 2013, 04:25:14 PM
I have come across these where D&R state that these have same thickness as OE.  As for shine, they state they are brighter than OE.  The price is nice and they sound good, but is the claim too good to be true.  just trying to see if I should have my OE sent out, or buy these.  Has anyone bought these from D&R?  Anyone know who the original manufacturer is that they get them from and are they known for good quality.

Is there a superior reproduction set better than these?  Who has the best quality of these for the best price?

Thanks again,

71  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / What is the quality of reproduction windshield and rear glass chrome moldings? on: September 11, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
Hey guys,

I am getting ready to put my 69 back together after its new paint job, and looking at my original chrome moldings.  They are rough, with lots of scratches and dings and dents everywhere.  Finding NOS ones are either impossible or way too expensive.  Are the repro's any good?  I have read they are quite thin and prone to bending and dents, do not shine like OE, and fit horribly.  What is the consensus on these?

Also, if repro's are out of the question, who do you suggest for sending these out to have them made nice again?


72  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 CAMARO'S LEFT ON THE ROAD on: September 06, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
I worked as a roofing contractor in Miami after hurrican Andrew in 1991.  For the next two years, my job was to supervice project and give estimates.  I am not kidding when I say I have driven every single street in Miami and Homestead, south of Kendall Drive...seriously.  I could find any address without a map and drive right to the house, and if you told me an address, i could picture the street in my head and tell you how far it was from the nearest 1969 Camaro.  There were about 15-20 1969 Camaros of every condition, from wiped out to quite nice. 

I bought a Z28 minus the engine for $50.  It was black with gold stripes and had the 12 bolt, the muncie, and the front disc brakes, which I removed and installed on my plain jane 69 Camaro.  The rest I parted out and made my money back and then some.  It was rusted in the usual areas, but by today's standards, would have been a dream to to restore.  After I got the parts off it I wanted, I junked it.  A few years ago, I paid several thousand dollars for a car in way worse condition, just to get another 69 Camaro. 
73  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Lobbying pays off on: August 28, 2013, 12:23:10 AM
In Florida you can simply have a cop do this.  Get the proper form, and go to the police dept or if your local cop is service friendly, they will come to your home, and verify the VIN and sign the form for you.

74  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Differences in exhaust kit for 67 ss350 vs 67 z28? on: August 28, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
I bought my exhaust system from D&R as well and noticed the two sizes offered.  I bought the 2-1/4" system for my 69 SS and it fit fine. 
75  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Caveat Emptor on: August 23, 2013, 11:38:59 PM
Though I absolutely agree that this Camaro is NOT a pace car, the 10-bolt rear is not a definitive option in determining a real pace car.  I am the 2nd owner of a numbers matching pace car that I have owned since 2000.  It has a 350 engine, a powerglide, and a 10-bolt posi.  It is also a column shift and no console car.

The earliest pace car I have in my database is 589611 and has a build date of 01C.  There is no way a 12B car can be a pace car.

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