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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in on: January 10, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
1969 Camaro Indy Pace Car
deluxe houndstooth interior
SS Wheel with wood shroud
pebble grain on steering wheel

47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Shoulder belts for 1967 Camaro SS convertible on: January 10, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
I have a convertible with shoulder belts.  What you should know is that there is no give to these belts like in newer cars.  You are literally strapped into the back of your seat, and cannot lean forward to check your mirrors fully, change your radio station, or adjust the heater controls, nothing.  I don't wear it for this reason.  It's like being strapped down like a criminal in an insane asylum.  So, if you do this, try to rig up something that would have a newer like spring setup seatbelt, so you don't restrict your movement so much.

48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Anyone on here willing to do my bodywork? on: January 10, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
Where are you located.  If you are in south Florida area, I will certainly donate my time to help.  I've been there and know how it feels.
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking to get lots of photos for the Home Page for 2014 on: January 03, 2014, 11:42:30 AM
Wow, I must have been getting a telekinetic message from you.  I submitted the home page pics for January at 11:06am this morning, and see that you posted your message above at 11:06am as well. 

50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Are the reproduction wheel well moldings any good yet? on: December 29, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
hey guys,

Looking to replace a EO wheel well molding that was damaged.  I remember years ago trying to fit a reproduction set, and they were horrible.  I see them supposed GM approved ones for sale on ebay.  Are they any good?  How to they fit and compare to OE?


51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Need Driver Side Front Wheelwell Molding for 69 Camaro on: December 29, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
Hey guys,

I recently got my 69 back from the paint shop.  They did a really nice job, however, during the build, thry pre-fit the wheel well moldings, and messed one of them up.  What upsets me a little is the fact that I gave them a complete factory OE set in which three of them, including the front driver side, were still brand new in the GM packaging.  The guy who installed it was obviously unsure of where to drill the holes, and simply started drilling hole after hole, and even drilled several holes side by side and touching.  He then took snips to the top and instead of drilling holes, cut notches out where he could hopefully just loosen the upper bolts and slide the molding under them.  What makes it worse, is NOT one single hole is in the proper space.

To take a 40 somehting year of NOS trim piece still in the GM wrapper, and cut it up and ruin it makes cringe.  As most of you know, this part is not easily obtained.

Well, the owner agreed with me and says he will replace it.  Now, I have the job of trying to find one.  I doesn't have to be new, but a a nice used one will work as well.  If anyone has one or knows where to find one, and is willing to sell it, I would be forever in your debt.  I understand it won't be cheap, and am willing to spend the money.  The entire exterior is completely back together except for this one last trim piece, and I would love to get it done.  I plan to post a pic of it on the home page for February, is that is my birth month.  I am hoping the idiot that puts these photos in the monthly lineup will accept my photo and post it for that month.  I hear he can be a real jerk sometimes.

Thanks for any help you can give.


52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bucket Seat Back teather cable on: December 20, 2013, 11:35:06 PM
Just to let everyone know, these have found a new home and no longer available.  Thanks.
53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 1969 Reproduction Front Lower Valance Parking Light Fitment on: December 20, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
I have a reproduction front lower valance for my 69.  When I installed the front light assemblies, the lenses stick way out from the panel.  I removed the gasket, which gained a little room, but they still seem to stick out too far.  I ended up drilling out the spot welds on the bracket, and re-welding it further back.  Am I the only one that has encountered this problem?   
54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bucket Seat Back teather cable on: December 20, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Here is a pic of them...
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bucket Seat Back teather cable on: December 19, 2013, 10:19:43 AM
I have a couple of these I found in my misc. Camaro parts bin.  They are from a 69 and are grey, and about 7" long.  Not sure what they are worth, but if you are looking for one, email me and make me an offer.

56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Age Groups of Our Hobby on: December 13, 2013, 01:25:52 PM
I agree with the above.  Yes, I am happy that my Camaros are worth a small fortune and could pay off my house for what they may sell for.  But I hate the fact that I am scared to leave them alone in a parking lot for fear they will get stolen.  The fact that I can't buy another project Camaro as even the horrible ones are astronomical.  I hate the fraud and crookedness it has brought to this hobby.  That I can't trust what a trim tag says.  I hate that ebay has more RS Z/28 or COPO Camaros listed than were originally built.  Heck, I can not afford to buy my own Camaros.

In 1987, I bought my first 69 Camaro for $90, and I drove it home.  I spent $800 to redo the interior, fix up the motor, mag wheels and paint.  It got me to college for two years.  I parked it out on the street, many times, with the doors unlocked.  I never worried it would be stolen.  I sold it to a car dealer who approached me with $3,000, which was an absolute fortune in my opinion.  I would pay 5 times that to have it back of course.  My next several 69 Camaros were bought for $700 and $1,000, and were in solid decent shape.  My 68 RS Convertible with solid perfect body and floors, was had for $1,600.  You could go to the junk yard or swap meet and find every part you wanted.  At swap meets you could find console gauges for $20, set of bucket seats for $40, and all the chrome trim pieces for .50 cents each.  Those days are gone, and I do long for them.  I would gladly give up the value of my Camaros to have those days back...but alas, like my youthful looks, and painfree body, are dust in the wind.   

A friend of mine just sold his 69 for $137K at Barrett Jackson.

It was a very nice car, but it was a non-numbers big block with standard interior.  I am amazed at this.  At this price, this car is not going to make it in the hands of the average young kid.  Heck, the average anyone can not afford this.  This car will not be seen at the local car shows, or seen tearing up the streets around town.  It is now going to be traded and sold like a commodity.  This is one of the reasons our hobby will die.  Like jet-setting, yachting or playing polo, only the very few chosen can afford it.  15 years ago, this Camaro  would have sold for about $15K, and that would have been about right. 

Between the rich scooping up all the cool Camaros, the fraudsters contributing to the problem, I guess it's easy to see why kids are into small foreign jobs.  If the cool cars are no longer obtainable, then make the obtainable cars cool.  That's what we did if you think about it.  We could afford Porsches or Ferraris, so will built them out of the poor man's cruiser.  I laugh at the stupid kid that puts a coffee can muffler on his SubaMitsuYotaSsan, but this is not unlike me fliipping my air cleaner lid upside down, or installing glass packs.  Today's spoiler monstrosities are my generations rear airshocks turning my car into a sliding board when tapping the brakes. 

So, I guess I should give the rice burner kidz a break.  There stupid tricks are just them doing as I did when I was young. 

Thanks for the depressing, but fun look at our hobby.  I suppose as long as all of us here have breath, there will be muscle cars somewhere.


57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking to get lots of photos for the Home Page for 2014 on: December 13, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Hey guys, I am getting a terrific response.  I have some great pics, but I would love to get more.  Please keep sending in your pics.  In fact, I want one month where the Camaro pics are not of perfect Camaros.  Send in a pic of your project Camaro, or maybe it's in primer.  Just make sure it looks like a Camaro and I will have months where I show less than perfect Camaros, future awesome Camaros, and Camaros in the process of greatness.

So, send in all your pics, but please send in your pics of Camaros in primer...and if I can get all three years, I will post them.  Send pics to the following:


58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Age Groups of Our Hobby on: December 12, 2013, 05:55:15 PM
Am I reading the survey results right...?  NO ONE UNDER 30?  And less than 7% under age 40?  OMG...please say I am not seeing it right...that I missed something.

From this survey, I am in the "younger" group as I am in my 40's.  I have onwed a first gen Camaro since I was a teenager, and can not imagine not having one.  As it is now, I have two 69's, and think it quite normal.   I suppose that one day 20 years or so from now, these cars will be had for real cheap, as there will be very few people wanting to own one.  Sadly, none of the younger guys seem to want them.  

I blame this sad trend on first lame dads not taking their sons to a car show or teaching them how to work on cars, thus insuring they will be victims of unscrupulous mechanics for the rest of their lives.  When I was a teenager, I learned how to work on my car out of necessity.  I couldn't afford some garage to change my brakes, oil change, or other fix, so I did it myself.  Not to mention, at the rate I broke stuff, I had to learn how to make repairs, sometimes on the side of the road with very few tools.  I had the notion that if the moron working on my car at the mechanic shop could do it, so could I.  Next thing I knew, I was building entire cars.  

I also blame this on the big car companies not giving the younger crowd anything to get excited about.  I can't speak for all of you, but in my opinion, there isn't a car worth a damn built after 1973, save for a few exceptions.  These crappy junk boxes did nothing to get the next generation of kids wanting one.  Compound this with the fact that these cars were way too complicated, no horsepower, and could not be made to go fast easily or cheaply (Thank you Ralph Nader).  Add in the explosion of cars from Japan with the societal push to go green and drive small affordable, 4-banger economy boxes, and the fact they were making cars that did not break as often or need maintenace like those of the muscle car era.  Kids no longer "needed" to know how to work on their cars.  

I know guys who have never lifted the hood of their car, and have no desire to.  I find this amazing.  Of course, these are the same guys that think they own a comprehensive set of tools becasue they have a $10 box of Taiwan sockets, two screwdrivers, and a cheap pair of pliers.  They couldn't change their own wiper blades if you held a gun to their heads.  It is really no wonder why very few later generations got into one showed them, and there was just plain nothing to get excited about.  

Look at stock car racing.  Used to be these events got kids exicted about buying a car.  The old saying "Win on Sunday, buy on Monday" (or something like that).  Well, stock cars starting in the late 70's were not very stock.  Nowadays, remove the fiberglass bodies, and they all look the same.  No longer could you even think of buying anything at the dealership that even closely related to the cars at the races.  

Sadly, like the drive in theater, hang out diner, gas station mechanic, and chrome, enthusiasm for muscle cars is dying.  I consider myself lucky to have grown up loving old cars, my ability to fix them up, and getting into the car crowd.  I have never had a mechanic pull one over on me, that is, for the very few times I needed to even go to one (Usually new car warranty nonsense where they try to sell me some stupid repair amazingly NOT covered by the warranty).  

Anyway, I agree with the idea of getting the younger kids interested.  My next show, I am going to let a few rugrats hop in behind the steering wheel (gently of course) and see if that will help ignite a sparkle in their eyes.      
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Imagine my surprise on: December 09, 2013, 04:01:23 PM
see, dream to come true.  The pics on the home page are real photos of real Camaro owners who visit this site.  I am always looking for new photos to grace our home page every month.  So be just like Michael, Steve and Brian, and send in your photo of your Camaro, and I promise, you will one day see it up on the home page.  If you have a special month you would like to have your Camaro shown, no problem, just let me know what month you want, and I will put it in that slot.  No Camaro is too nice or too ugly to not send it your photos right away. 

Send your pics to the following:


60  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Looking to get lots of photos for the Home Page for 2014 on: December 09, 2013, 03:57:38 PM
Hey guys,

We have a new year coming and I am looking to collect lots of nice photos for the home page.  Not just for next month, but for the entire year.  So send in your photo of your Camaro and I promise, it will get on the home page.  If you have a special month, for example, a birthday, or the month your Camaro was built (Like I'm not the only Camaro owner that knows the birth week of his vehicle), I will be happy to post that photo for that specific month. 

You Camaro does not have to be perfect, heck, if it's in primer, or rusty and dented, or has dull paint, send a photo anyway.  This site is not about perfect and restored Camaros, it's about OUR Camaros, of all conditions and styles. 

The next Camaro of each model year will get posted for the start of the New Years.  Don't worry if the pic is not perfect, as I will do my best to crop it and re-size it if necessary. 

So please, send in your pics, this site is about you and your Camaro, so represent and send in your pic.

Send photos to:


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