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Restoration / Re: 68 camaro inner rocker skins

« on: January 29, 2006, 06:33:39 AM »

Coupe rockers are totally different. Convertibles use thicker steel (0.125" thick and the width of the whole rocker is twice that of a coupe. There are 2 long "Z" reinforcers inside the rag version as well.

Best approach is to rebuild once floor is cut away with custom made aptches and a good penetration weld. This the backbone of the car.

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 29, 2006, 06:28:53 AM »

Steve

The PN was usually a rubber ink stamp on the back of the stainless disk. The potmetal 3 ear spinner has a part # on the back of one vane but this is common to all.

I put the photos under a binocular mircoscope today and the original covers on the car in summer 1968 were definitely black banded...still wonder if this is a RS/SS option issue. The 117 part out of the box is per my pic on earlier post. This is a circa 1983 purchase.

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 28, 2006, 02:27:46 AM »

I tend to agree with you, I can't see an Impala cover on a Camaro unless you had both cars on the lot etc. Bill is saying what got shipped loose didn't always get to the car. This is true if you have worked at a dealership you know amazing stuff happens.

I have another thought. The PN 3871174 on the box and shown in the GM 70's parts books is noted as full wheel cover RS/SS which is the car I have. These are black ring. The circa 1969 polaroids also show a black ring not argent and these pics don't lie as they are as old as my car.

Could it be that RS/SS cars got a "black out" on the rockers and tailpanel and to match this they also got a black accent wheelcover??  Other non-RS/SS cars, eg an SS without RS would not have had the blackout and perpaps used the silver accent covers?

Arno

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Originality / Headlamps

« on: January 26, 2006, 04:19:48 PM »

I see lots of folks looking for T3 Guide headlamps for 1st gen cars. Are these the only lamps shipped from NOR and LOS (my car is a 1968)?

My car has lamps with a center logo "POWER BEAM" and the bottom has a small squre 1/4" GM logo and says GM of Canada on the back where it has 6014 stamp.

Was this a replacement lamp??

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 26, 2006, 04:13:58 PM »

Steve

I think John is correct on not trusting the PR guys but the silver seems incorrect based on all the other input. I spoke to Bill Ball at GM Canada and he collects cars as well. His input was that wheelcovers got swapped often at the dealers since they were shipped "loose".

I just found an original photo of my car when new. The ring(s) are black on the pic, but hard to say if there are 1 or 2.

Arno

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Originality / Re: spoiler nuts

« on: January 24, 2006, 10:58:17 PM »

To clarify, I am referring to the rear spoiler.

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 24, 2006, 05:49:38 AM »

Chris

You are getting my confusuion. All the photos show 1 black ring but GM part in box has 2. I have got used versions of both on the shelf now so they do exist....plus the argent silver ones!!!

I'm getting to believe that the photos were very early production or prototype and was with 1 ring....still doesn't explain why I have a few dual ring versions unless they are from another car.

Maybe JohnZ can comment on whether brochure photos were usually of final design or things shifted.

Arno

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Originality / Re: ground straps

« on: January 24, 2006, 05:40:41 AM »

Should be 2, one from each valve cover, plus one at the PS subframe to body near the #1 subrame bolt cage nut opening. ASM shows details in radio section U63.

Tab on wiper motor goes flat to body of the wiper assembly base and to metal portion of bushing mount.

Arno

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Originality / spoiler nuts

« on: January 24, 2006, 05:34:23 AM »

Hi There

Can anyone give me an answer on the fasteners used on 1968 early design spoliers. My originals were;

1. rearmost; acorn nut 1/4 NC  0.500" tall
2. innermost to car; hex nut 1/4 NC with captive toothed washer  I have a mix 1 pair is 3/4" washer the others 9/16" washer, both are cad dichromate plated.

What of this is correct for 1968?

Cheers

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 18, 2006, 06:29:26 AM »

Hi Steve

A local Camaro club member pointed me at the 68 sales brochures, both large and small versions. They show a single black rim. So now we have 1 vote for each.

I'm wondering if this was a LOS vs. NOR or a late vs. early 68 variation?

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 14, 2006, 07:02:21 AM »

An old timer hubcap guy just confirmed that the black is Camaro but he couldn't remember if they had 1 or 2 black bands like the pic on the last post.

Any input from folks with this option? Seems few were ordered and fewer survive.

Cheers

Arno

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Originality / Re: 1968 ss rs 396 325 hp fan

« on: January 09, 2006, 05:53:03 AM »

Earl

Look at the CRG Reports section on the maun webpage. There is a ful report with all the info you are asking.

Cheers

Arno

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Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 08, 2006, 01:34:54 AM »

Here is a pic.

Arno

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Originality / 68 SS Hubcaps

« on: January 05, 2006, 05:01:07 AM »

Can anyone tell me the correct paint triom details for the full SS hubcaps used on 68 SS cars. These are the 14 inch 3-vane raised potmetal hub on stainless disc style. They have a plastic emblem black/silver with red SS.

 I have a collection from NOS GM, swap meets and ebay and there are 3 variants;

1. only single inner ring painted black
2. both inner and outer ring painted black
3. only single inner ring painted argent silver

I think #1 is correct but #2 was a NOS piece I bought new in 1983 from my dealer so go figure. Silver was Impala I think.

Arno

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Originality / Re: Battery Ground lead

« on: January 05, 2006, 04:40:38 AM »

Many thanks.

Arno