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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 10, 2016, 02:01:56 AM »
Hi His67PC,

Your comment pushes the point I'm trying qualify here. Most pace car enthusiasts would expect an 0-1 IPC to be all white :) Everybody else really could care less lol. Enjoy your IPC!

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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 10, 2016, 01:43:20 AM »
And for you folks out there digging up your old Hooper and Crispino Indy Pace Car Book, take a look at page 35 and you will see a TT with exactly the same RPO's as mine. Also 04A and they are showing the body number as 193251 but its surely a typo and 103251 instead 2 body numbers off mine. It's still out there somewhere in someones garage  :)

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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 10, 2016, 01:33:06 AM »
Yeah I'm not being very clear with my question, sorry. Most 67 396 cars with the exception of some dark colors have a black out tail pan cove. This is an 04A, O-1 (special paint) 396 pace car ordered by the Indy Zone for what purpose I don't know. Most recall that the two real  03C, O-1, (special paint) 396 pace cars have body color tail pans (white). However, show paint and tail pan cove to be painted body color (white) is part of the 98168 up fit performed in the first week or so of April and not when they were painted at the factory in 03C. So my question is my O-1 396 built in April and is special paint, could it be white? It seems they kind of had a theme going with the all white thing for the speedway IPC's and I can see how having 50+ all white and then a couple with black tails...IDK? 

I have no idea how many Indy Zone 396 pace cars are out there to compare to as I've not seen another and don't have access to any of the accumulated data bases out there. In Hooper and Crispino's Indy Pace Car Book on page 60 is this "The only unsolved mystery... was the rear panel of the big block cars flat black or white? Those built in April delete the black panel" I doubt I will ever really know because it's such a small sampling and that's why I'm going to play the safe bet and paint it black. I do know that C-1 396 IPC's have black tail pan coves.


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General Discussion / Re: 67 pace car & 68 Z28
« on: February 10, 2016, 12:12:27 AM »
I would have to see the vin and trim tag to give you an idea. Lets say a real nice restored numbers matching example at 70k so you can do the math of the price paid and a full restoration to make it right again. Pretty easy to drop 30K plus these days.

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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 08, 2016, 02:48:50 AM »
It has a correct 396 engine but not the original engine. When found it had a swap to black interior. Blue behind the black paint on the dash. The body is now in primer and blocked and frame is done.

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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 07, 2016, 06:07:31 PM »
NCRS

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Restoration / Re: Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 07, 2016, 06:05:24 PM »
TT

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Restoration / Black out tail pan BB 67 IPC
« on: February 07, 2016, 06:04:37 PM »
Hello,

I'm getting ready to paint my BB O-1 1967 Indy Pace Car and would like some input. The issue I have is that my car is a 396 and not the 350 but has the exact same RPO build as the pace cars sent to the Indy Zone for IMS commitment activities. Its not a commitment car because it doesn't fit the criteria being a 396 and was produced the 1st week of April. The NCRS says the car was delivered to the Indy Zone and it has the vin delivery stamp etc. Basically the TT reads exactly like the actual two pace cars would have if the were not a refit from 4P L78 cars but factory built the way they paced the race. I plan to black out the tail pan and I'm sure I will get into lots of lengthy conversations about the combo of identifiers once I start showing. I just thought I would bounce it off you guys first.

Thank you.   

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Hello everyone, is this the same database as NICB?

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Originality / Tyler's Car
« on: February 28, 2010, 10:13:27 PM »
Its First.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 vin date stamp
« on: January 07, 2010, 12:00:30 AM »
Here's something like what Warren is talking about. This is on a 1966 Suburban.

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Originality / Re: Dealer optioned 67 Camaro
« on: January 02, 2010, 05:22:45 PM »
No designation was used for the TH400 auto transmission at the time this car was built. At NOR they eventually started using a "Z" for TH400 and at LOS they eventually went with "M" for both powerglide and TH400. Correct me if I'm wrong here but this car was fitted with a TH400 automatic.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 vin date stamp
« on: December 29, 2009, 12:12:26 AM »
How was the conclusion or theory drawn that the code stamped has something to do with the 5/50 warranty? It seems like a strange way to keep track of warranty service work. How would a dealership know to even check the VIN for such a stamp? I thought they relied on the POP and used it like a credit card machine for any vehicle warranty service needing documentation so they could be reinbursed? I would think it might be more likely it had something to do with how the factory handled the car and was more specific to matching it to some kind of paperwork they were working from. Like the cowl tag was to Fisher would not the VIN tag be to Chevrolet? 

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Restoration / Re: Period correct engine value?
« on: December 15, 2009, 06:57:47 PM »
Having a CE warranty block in my 69 Z11, and Keeping it right where it is, I'd like to propose that a change be made from Chevrolets warranty designation CE "Chevrolet Engine" to CE "Cousin Eddie".

I also propose that during the month of December that all owners with Cousin Eddie's hidden under the hood raise a Billy Beer in acceptance of our black sheep status in the Chevrolet family. The other eleven months of the year we can all go back to ignoring they exist.

JohnZ, can I get a second on the motion   ;D

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Early '67 Sub-frame date code?
« on: November 20, 2009, 11:33:51 PM »
Is it stamped into the steel or painted/stenciled on the steel?

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