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106  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1969 Control Arm Alignment Shims on: April 02, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
Working on a few engine compartment and suspension details and I've not been able to locate a reference for the correct, factory installed, control arm alignment shims used on Norwood built '69 Camaros.  The parts houses sell the style of shim in the first photo below in bright zinc with a hole in the top and the size ( 1/32" or 1/16" ) stamped on one side, as correct for all 1967-1969 Camaros. The second photo is of a shim that I pulled out of a '69 that I can't say was original to the car however it shows significant age. It has the same general shape however lacks the hole and has no size stamping.  Would appreciate some help to identify the factory correct version(s).    




107  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Jack Retaining Strap(s) Endura Bumper on: April 01, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
Below is a photo from a current eBay listing for a very nice, original, late production (9J, 1969) bumper jack set from a survivor '69 Camaro with a factory installed endura bumper. I have not previously seen the rather long, rubber lug wrench retaining sleeve and was interested to know if this is orginal, period aftermarket, a late 1969 production item or even unique to the endura bumper option? The more typical retainer straps (2 required) I have seen (and discussed in another related CRG tread http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1451.0 are shown in the second photo
Endura Bumper Jack Set


Wrench Retainer Straps


108  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 owners manual question. on: March 22, 2013, 11:43:49 PM
I think I do, but not sure. If I do it's burried somewhere. Do you have a spare?

$12...that's a deal, nice ones usually trade on eBay for 3x-5x that price, well done. Do you have the poly bag for it, an important detail.

 

Gary, I don't have a spare poly bag but there's a really nice one on eBay, item # 400442437592 .
109  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 owners manual question. on: March 21, 2013, 12:16:45 PM
$12...that's a deal, nice ones usually trade on eBay for 3x-5x that price, well done. Do you have the poly bag for it, an important detail.

 
110  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 owners manual question. on: March 14, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
I'm in the market for an OEM owners manual for my 06A Z and I have noticed that all the ones I have seen on ebay are First Edition August 68's. Were there other dates printed or was that First Edition use throughout the whole production run?

Gary, there is a nice Third Edition Owners Manual listed on eBay Item # 400435738472 .
111  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 owners manual question. on: March 13, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
My 4C Norwood car has the April, 1969 Third Edition manual





112  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Carb Stud Length - '69 Cowl Air Cleaner on: March 13, 2013, 01:29:42 AM
Thanks for the additional details Mike.

113  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Carb Stud Length - '69 Cowl Air Cleaner on: March 11, 2013, 06:23:42 PM
Mike, thanks for the posting, that's excellent information and the photos help a great deal!  For completeness of topic and future reference, do you have, and would you post the measurements for the non-cowl stud as well.

 
114  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Carb Stud Length - '69 Cowl Air Cleaner on: March 10, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
Lloyd,

The stud in the photo looks correct for a cowl hood car, however I think your wing nut is not the original, it looks to bulky in the wing thumb hold area. The wing nut should not be chrome, and the stud ( i think) is like a dull black phosphate. I had changed mine many years ago ( put a chrome lid and stud/nut off a non cowl hood car) and in going through my original kept parts for my car ( reinstalled), just came across it and the wing nut, ( as well as the lid) I will snap a picture Monday and repost it for you.  

Would be great if you would post a photo of an original, thanks Mike.
115  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Carb Stud Length - '69 Cowl Air Cleaner on: March 09, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
The cowl hood (original paint) and air cleaner assembly on my '69 Z/28 are original however at some point a few fasteners lost their way... including the air cleaner stud, and I have been painstakingly trying locate correct originals. The air cleaner stud seems to be a particular challenge.  The commonly available era correct stud is ~2.25" total length, the lower segment that screws into the carb is ~0.50" and upper segement that secures the cleaner lid and filter element is ~1.75".  I use an AC Delco repop 212CW air cleaner element which measures ~3.00" in height and an original 4053 carb with paper gasket.  I understand the original 212 element was also 3.00" high.

The stud has a lot (no photo) of excess thread length above the top of the air cleaner lid with the wing nut secured and doesn't look right. What is the correct total and segment lengths of an original cowl air cleaner stud and are there any differences vs a non-cowl hood open element stud? I am also interested in how the top of the stud was finished/cut. The stud in the photo is tapered rather than bunt cut  Huh









116  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Dimpled Carb Studs on: January 12, 2013, 02:56:06 PM
Where did you buy them from?

Mike

eBay auction.
117  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Dimpled Carb Studs on: January 12, 2013, 02:01:15 PM
Just bought this set, thought I'd post photos for another data point.







118  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Dimpled Carb Studs on: January 08, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
Thanks Chick, so a dimpled stud was used on a Gen 1 in 68, that's progress. There was a mention on the Yenko.net forum by a reputable restorer that dimpled carb studs were "correct" for an L78 '69 Camaro. I found that to be a bold statement especially in light of postings from John Z and others that fasteners (and their markings) used on the NOR and LOS assembly lines varied by supplier and there was little consistency. There were no other postings on the subject I could locate and I have never seen them used or referenced elsewhere.  
119  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Dimpled Carb Studs on: January 08, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
I have seen dimpled carb studs for sale from time to time and was wondering if they were ever factory installed on any Gen 1 Camaro?

120  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Power steering box color ( the 4 bolt top piece) on: December 30, 2012, 02:51:34 AM
Cover is natural aluminum, cover bolts are dark (manganese) phosphated, box body is natural cast iron.
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