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Restoration / Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips

« on: June 23, 2020, 04:58:07 PM »

Phenomenal write up Lloyd! Should either be put in the research topics or made a sticky!
Doc

I agree, fantastic info!

Thanks for the feedback gents.

Lloyd

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Restoration / 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips

« on: June 21, 2020, 05:09:23 AM »

I just completed the restoration of the brake clips for my 1969 RS Z/28 Project. My research lead me to a few, incomplete threads on CRG so I thought I would contribute a comprehensive reference thread in case others can benefit from this information in future. All clips shown are original and restored, none are reproduction. All bolts are manganese phosphated and as there are several threads on CRG that discuss where to source phosphating solution and how to convert fasteners I won't address that process.The black chromate fasteners (3 - double hoop style) are first clear (silver) zinc plated followed by a black chromate immersion solution. The result is similar to low-gloss black paint however more durable and it doesn't flake or chip. The finish is also similar to Black Oxide immersion solution (which does not require zinc plating) and both are available from electroplating suppliers like Caswell. For the semi-transparent blue and green clips I used Steel F/X metal solvent dye. Its best to apply it with a low pressure air brush. It dries quickly and produces a fairly durable flat sheen finish. I applied two light coats. I've include a color coded (by clip) reference from the AIM as well as photos I took at MCACN of some original cars with undisturbed clips to show the location and orientation of each clip.



Front Subframe Cross Member Clips


Black Chromate Double Hoop Style Clips


Semi-Transparent Blue Dye Clips


The single Semi-Transparent Green Dye Clip


Clear Zinc Clip


Color Coded Clip Reference Locations




Original Clips - shown in order from back to front of car (along left /driver's side)

Position 1: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Left of Differential
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Position 2: Semi-Transparent Blue Dye - Rear Inside Frame Rail



Position 3: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Underbody, bolted to floor



Position 4: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Underbody, bolted to bracket stand 


Transition Between Position 3 & 4 clips


Position 5: Shown on AIM however not used for Power Disc / Drum Brakes

Brake Line Routing Between Position 4 clip and Proportioning Valve


Proportioning Valve - Outside Sub Frame Rail between Position 4 and 6 Clips


Position 6: Semi Transparent Blue Dye - Sub Frame Rail Front


Position 7: Semi Transparent Blue Dye - Inside Sub Frame Rail


The following 3 clips are Bolted to the Firewall side of the Sub Frame Cross Member

Left Position: Semi Transparent Green Dye


Center-Left Position: Clear Zinc


Center-Right Position: Clear Zinc









       

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Restoration / Re: Latest creation PF-25 Assembly line oil filter

« on: June 12, 2020, 02:25:29 PM »

"These filters were “borrowed” by a GM Framingham plant employee back then. He then put a racing sticker on to cover his tracks. When I received them someone tried to peel the sticker off. One filter had a trace of the AC logo. There was no blue or red ring on either filter. I stripped the filters , repainted and re-stenciled.
Doc"


Any photos to share?

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Restoration / Re: Latest creation PF-25 Assembly line oil filter

« on: June 11, 2020, 05:59:24 AM »

This assembly line correct oil filter re-creation is based on on original service replacement PF-25 oil filter that's been re-stenciled. I commissioned the stencils for my 1969 Z project and Doc has a couple of those stencils. See Posts 280 to 284 in my TC build thread https://www.camaros.net/forums/133-build-projects/337897-1969-camaro-rs-z-28-brooklyn-project-19.html

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Originality / Re: Correct size T bolts for leaf springs

« on: June 08, 2020, 02:04:26 PM »

Original T-bolts are 1.25" and I have not seen a difference between those used for mono leaf vs multi leaf applications.

Untitled by Lloyd Costley, on Flickr

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Z Fuel Line Clips, Hoses and Fasteners

« on: May 23, 2020, 01:57:24 PM »

Great work Lloyd... beautiful!

Thanks James - high praise indeed coming from you!

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Z Fuel Line Clips, Hoses and Fasteners

« on: May 23, 2020, 01:56:37 PM »

Great pics Lloyd, thanks for posting.  Curious as to why you decided to change the front two clips from natural or clear zinc noted in your take-off pic early in the thread to the translucent blue at install?

Fair question. I did some further investigation and from other examples I was shown I concluded the front clips (engine compartment) were blue rather than non-colored. Engine heat cycles, the effects of oil as a solvent and environmental elements dissolved the color finish over time. 

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Z Fuel Line Clips, Hoses and Fasteners

« on: May 22, 2020, 01:53:39 PM »

I've completed restoration of the clips for the 3/8" fuel line on my 69Z project, so for the sake of completeness I'm posting the end result for reference (front to back routing):

Engine Compartment: 2 blue (semi-transparent) 3/8" clips (closed loop)


Outside Right (front) Sub frame Rail: 2 blue (semi-transparent) 3/8" clips (closed loop)


Underbody against pinch weld seam: 1 black chromate 3/8" clip (hoop style)
Not photographed

Underbody, Front of Leaf Spring Bucket: 1 clear zinc plated clip with large end of clip facing front of car


Inside (rear) Frame Rail: 2 black chromate 3/8" clips (hoop style)



Top of (rear) Frame Rail: 1 manganese phosphated bracket secured with 1" non self tapping bolt

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Restoration / Re: Fuel Sending Unit Details - Tape and Sleeve

« on: May 19, 2020, 03:32:29 PM »

A few of the previous photos make the tape appear to be -(I think they are Lloyds) crepe paper and appear to be over 1/2" maybe 9/16-5/8" wide, and then a couple appear like the thin plastic tape with fiber backing and appear to be under 1/2" -maybe 3/8 -7/16 wide ?
Am I making the wrong judgement as far as sizes and composition of tape go? 
 

The photo of my sender seems show a crepe / masking tape style tape much like in Reply #21. 

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Restoration / Re: Fuel Sending Unit Details - Tape and Sleeve

« on: May 17, 2020, 05:01:35 PM »

I should have my hands on 3M Temflex Friction  1755 by next week

ALL, I got a Roll of the 3M 1755 & it is more like the tape used to serve the rear light harness in the trunk, cloth fiber -vs- crepe

still looking,,,,,,,,,

Jim, to clarify are you looking for a crepe-style tape or fiber-cloth?

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Restoration / Re: Fuel Sending Unit Details - Tape and Sleeve

« on: May 12, 2020, 03:23:12 AM »

More good photos, thanks. Jim, does the tape look like anything that's commercially available currently?

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Restoration / Re: Fuel Sending Unit Details - Tape and Sleeve

« on: May 11, 2020, 11:06:54 PM »

Here's some pics of my isolator and tape.

Excellent photos and details Jim, good foresight in taking the time to document this detail originally and thank you for posting.

From the photos it appears the tape is plastic-electrical or asphalt based?  

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Restoration / Fuel Sending Unit Details - Tape and Sleeve

« on: May 11, 2020, 07:45:21 PM »

For the 3/8" single fuel line on my '69 Z, the pipe terminates at the top of the rear frame rail then connects via a 5" rubber hose to the fuel sending unit. The sending unit's fuel pipe is secured, in part, by the fuel tank strap where there is a pinch point between the tank and strap (see photo and AIM diagram). At this position the sending unit pipe is protected by a rubber sleeve covered by tape (see AIM Parts #5 & #6.). During the disassembly of my project I took photos of the sleeve and what was left of the tape. I assume the tape is a crepe style as was used elsewhere during the assembly process. Does anyone have better information on the tape used on the sleeve?



Pinch point securing sending unit pipe showing protective rubber sleeve and tape remnants prior to disassembly


Sending unit pipe, sleeve and tape residual following removal of the fuel tank

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Z Fuel Line Clips, Hoses and Fasteners

« on: May 04, 2020, 11:35:52 PM »

https://www.palmettoenterprisesparkerizing.com/
He has both zinc phosphate and manganese phosphate.
What's the thoughts on the zinc phospate? Use where?

I use Palmetto's zinc solution as well with good results. On my 69Z project the only parts I have found that need zinc phosphating are the hood hinges (excluding the springs), the hood latch (also excluding the spring) UPC 11/13, B6 #1, and hood catch / receiver assembly UPC 11/13, B6 #3.  Nothing else - so far.

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Z Fuel Line Clips, Hoses and Fasteners

« on: May 03, 2020, 02:10:05 PM »

Hi James, I buy it from Scott Owens at Palmetto Enterprises. The last time I did he was selling on eBay only however I think he’s back to selling direct. During the period he was out of the business I tried Brownell’s manganese solution however wasn’t impressed.