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When I purchased my 69 RS/Z28 with a factory installed Endura (VE3) bumper, as is often the case the jack and its related parts were missing. I located an original base, ratcheting mechanism, mast, J hook, wing nut and lug wrench with relative ease however was unable to locate an Endura jack hook.  I decided to purchase a reproduction from HBC and although its well made and a reasonable approximation of the original, it was just too fresh and shiny rather than "survivor original" in keeping with the rest of the car so after a considerable search I located the original hook pictured here. As the Endura VE3 jack hook is reasonably rare and not often photographed in captivity I thought I would post a few photos of the original and the reproduction as I have not seen a similar comparison posted anywhere else.  

Overall dimensions and weight are similar however there are several subtle differences:

The arch of the hook's backbone is more pronounced on the reproduction and the midsection of the arch is wider. Although it is difficult to see, and oxidation may play a part, the paint color on the original is a darker less intense shade of blue. The bottom and top ends of the original also have a finer taper. From this side angle the tabs on the back of the mask bracket are slightly bent upward on the original.

The hole located in the mid arch is positioned higher and the mast bracket is bent at a much steeper angle on the original hook.

This top down view of the back of the mast bracket shows a more defined die cut of the tabs and a straight cut and alignment vs slightly flared tab ends on the reproduction.

In this photo the difference in the angles of the mast brackets is quite noticeable. Also the die cut of the original braket is more defined or crisp vs the reproduction.

The stamping around the main rivet is more elongated on the original and the crush end of the rivet is domed in the center vs flat on the reproduction.

The font used for the "VE3" stamping is the same however is better defined and has better horizontal alignment on the original. The rivet is slightly larger and far more bulbous shaped on the reproduction hook.

The "CAMARO 1969 UN" stamping on the original uses a slightly larger point size and is shallower however the same font is used. Centering and horizontal alignment is better on the original. The edge radius of the stamping on the orignal is also wider. The rivet is painted on both and the original has a wider lip  

Test Drive / VIN Search Test 124379N633599 N633599
« on: May 28, 2013, 03:40:28 PM »
TEST - Norwood 4C build RS/Z28 originally sold out of Georgia or South Corolina. Looking for original trans and motor VIN 124379N633599   N633599

Originality / Cowl Hood Relay - Factory Original with Rivet?
« on: May 20, 2013, 01:27:43 AM »
I've come across a used cowl hood relay (firewall mounted) and am trying to determine if it is assembly line correct. The relay on my factory installed cowl hood car is the same except without the rivet circled in red. Does anyone with a factory original cowl hood car have a relay with the rivet or is this a non-correct later service replacement?    

Originality / 1969 Control Arm Alignment Shims
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:24:12 PM »
Working on a few engine compartment and suspension details and I've not been able to locate a reference for the correct, factory installed, control arm alignment shims used on Norwood built '69 Camaros.  The parts houses sell the style of shim in the first photo below in bright zinc with a hole in the top and the size ( 1/32" or 1/16" ) stamped on one side, as correct for all 1967-1969 Camaros. The second photo is of a shim that I pulled out of a '69 that I can't say was original to the car however it shows significant age. It has the same general shape however lacks the hole and has no size stamping.  Would appreciate some help to identify the factory correct version(s).    

Originality / Jack Retaining Strap(s) Endura Bumper
« on: April 01, 2013, 07:11:49 PM »
Below is a photo from a current eBay listing for a very nice, original, late production (9J, 1969) bumper jack set from a survivor '69 Camaro with a factory installed endura bumper. I have not previously seen the rather long, rubber lug wrench retaining sleeve and was interested to know if this is orginal, period aftermarket, a late 1969 production item or even unique to the endura bumper option? The more typical retainer straps (2 required) I have seen (and discussed in another related CRG tread are shown in the second photo
Endura Bumper Jack Set

Wrench Retainer Straps

Originality / Carb Stud Length - '69 Cowl Air Cleaner
« on: March 09, 2013, 06:36:46 PM »
The cowl hood (original paint) and air cleaner assembly on my '69 Z/28 are original however at some point a few fasteners lost their way... including the air cleaner stud, and I have been painstakingly trying locate correct originals. The air cleaner stud seems to be a particular challenge.  The commonly available era correct stud is ~2.25" total length, the lower segment that screws into the carb is ~0.50" and upper segement that secures the cleaner lid and filter element is ~1.75".  I use an AC Delco repop 212CW air cleaner element which measures ~3.00" in height and an original 4053 carb with paper gasket.  I understand the original 212 element was also 3.00" high.

The stud has a lot (no photo) of excess thread length above the top of the air cleaner lid with the wing nut secured and doesn't look right. What is the correct total and segment lengths of an original cowl air cleaner stud and are there any differences vs a non-cowl hood open element stud? I am also interested in how the top of the stud was finished/cut. The stud in the photo is tapered rather than bunt cut  ???

Originality / Dimpled Carb Studs
« on: January 08, 2013, 03:20:01 PM »
I have seen dimpled carb studs for sale from time to time and was wondering if they were ever factory installed on any Gen 1 Camaro?

General Discussion / 1969 Camaro Named Best Chevy of All Time
« on: September 14, 2011, 10:51:26 PM »

1969 Camaro Named Best Chevy of All Time

Nearly 125,000 Chevrolet fans have spoken, naming the1969 Camaro the “Best Chevy of All Time.”

As part of Chevrolet’s Centennial celebration, fans were asked to vote for their favorite vehicle from Chevrolet’s 100-year history. During the four-round, elimination bracket, the 1969 Camaro garnered 25,058 of the 124,368 votes cast, edging out the 1970 Chevelle SS in the final round.

Tom Peters, Chevrolet Design director, believes the ’69 Camaro is not only one of the best vehicles in Chevrolet’s history but one of the best vehicles ever. He is a little biased, however, having owned the same 1969 Camaro for nearly 20 years.
“I can vividly remember seeing one for the first time as a kid,” Peters said. “The intent of the Camaro was instantly understood, even to a 14-year old like me, because it possessed a very powerful personality and an elegant, simple design. The Camaro was so cool because it offered this great style, high performance, and yet was attainable for someone just getting out of school.
“Today, the ’69 Camaro has become one of the best examples of timeless design in the industry,” Peters said. “Like the very best designs, the Camaro is much more than just a machine because it evokes powerful emotions in people of all ages. That’s why we looked to the ’69 for inspiration when designing the fifth-generation Camaro, and why the ’69 Camaro is an example of the timeless vehicles Chevrolet will strive to deliver for the next 100 years.”

1969 - Orphans / 1969 M20 VIN# 19N668283
« on: July 14, 2011, 03:38:03 AM »
I recently purchased a 1969 RS Z/28 (4C build date) with a later dated (August 23 1969) M20 that I plan to remove. Would love to reunite this transmission with the original car!

PS - this M20 was originally discovered in May, 2006 with no success in reuniting it with the original car. It will be removed from the car shortly.

1969 - Orphans / 69 DZ Block 19N687352 on Craigslist Vancouver
« on: June 20, 2011, 06:05:08 AM »
Found this listing on Craigslist Vancouver BC:

Date: 2011-06-16, 7:00PM PDT
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I have a 1969 Z28 Camaro DZ 302 Engine block for sale. The Zapper 302. It is has one sleave cylinder...big deal.....if you ain't racing it, then it ain't going to go ! Comon..lets be realistic...when do you ever race these engines now adays and when you going to rev it up to 7500 ? It is a standard bore block. Its casting nu.mbers are 3970010. 4 bolt main. The deck number is V0724DZ . The vin number is not stamped on the deck but its on near the oil filter. The number of the vin is 19N687352 . Good hard to find block. How many of these are around.....they go more on ebay now adays !....Please...Serious enquirees only. Thanks

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