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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 camaro 327 exhaust manifold #'s needed

« on: August 07, 2006, 03:55:35 AM »

What a deal!  Your $250 score is one of the best deals I've heard of.  Regardless of what you decide to do with the car, you can't beat the initial investment cost.

With regard to your LH manifold, I'll bet the "8" is a "9" in which case your LH manifold is p/n: 3942529 which, according to the references, would be correct for 1969 Camaro 307/327 with auto tranny.

Richard

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 camaro 327 exhaust manifold #'s needed

« on: August 07, 2006, 12:43:52 AM »

RH side showing "376" manifold - no A.I.R. connections - heat stove visible.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 camaro 327 exhaust manifold #'s needed

« on: August 07, 2006, 12:05:03 AM »

I don't believe air conditioning had any impact on the exhaust manifold for the base 327 engine.  Only other part numbers that I know that were used on 327/210 hp Camaro in 1969 are:

LH 3942527 and RH 3946826. 

The "527" and "826" manifolds are shown as correct for all manual transmission, with A.I.R., small block Camaro applications for 1969 including the 302 Z28 engine.  These manifolds have A.I.R. drilled and tapped connections.  If A.I.R was not used, the ports were plugged.  (See JohnZ's comment below.) 

From personal experience, I removed a set of the "527" and "826" manifolds from a 69 327 base coupe that had a 3 speed manual and no A.I.R.  The manifolds were required because of the 3 speed manual trannsmission.  A.I.R had been removed so the ports were plugged.  (See KurtS and JohnZ's comments below.) This "527" manifold is currently on my car. 

In 1969 Camaro SB applications, there is a distinct difference in the RH manifolds between a standard transmission ("826" manifold) and an auto transmission ("376" manifold).   The "376" manifold incorporates a heat stove, is wider, with the heat stove riveted to it.  (The "826" manifold for standard transmission cars does not have the heat stove, since the Thermac / heat stove was an emmission system only applicable to an auto tran setup.)

I believe the manifolds you need are the "529" and the "376" manifolds.

Attached pic shows the "527" manifold on my engine.  Since the only fundamental difference between it and the correct "529" manifold is the A.I.R. ports, I decided to go ahead and use it.  The A.I.R. ports and hex plugs are clearly visible. 

I will also post a pic of the RH side of my engine with the "376" manifold and heat stove.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 camaro 327 exhaust manifold #'s needed

« on: August 06, 2006, 11:43:44 PM »

Chevrolet by the Numbers 1965-69; pp 218 and 220:

1969 Camaro 327/210 hp, 307/200 hp, or 350/250, 255, 300 hp engines w/auto transmission and no A.I.R.;

LH side p/n:  3942529
RH side p/n:  3932376

These manifolds were also used in 1969 on Chevelle and Chevy II 307 and 350 engines with auto tranny and no A.I.R.

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:22:24 AM »

Pic 8 - Smoothed Firewall - No Cowl Tag.  For reference, all of the pics were taken 5 August 2006 in Reno, NV

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:19:54 AM »

Pic 7 - No VIN on the A door pillar / jamb.

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:17:32 AM »

Pic 6 - Didn't know 502 BB was a '67 option.  As the pictures show, except for the blue/white colors, doesn't really much resemble a '67 Pace Car.

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:14:44 AM »

Pic 5

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:12:44 AM »

Pic 4

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:11:02 AM »

Pic 3

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:09:12 AM »

Pic 2

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 06, 2006, 06:07:12 AM »

Got some pics today of the CCR / Dynacorn clone of, as they refer to it, the '67 Camaro Pace Car.

First of all, no cowl tag, no VIN on the A pillar.  I checked the dash to see if something might have been placed there - no VIN visible.

So, at this time, this car may just be a show / trade show display toy.  And make no mistake, it is a very nice ride.  And as long as it is promoted as being a replica, no problem.  As with all of the Cobra kit cars, if you want to build a replica (kit) Camaro car, go for it - and make sure you call it and register it for what it is.

However, what has to be of concern to all of us is that, in the final analysis, no one (probably) is going to repeat what was done here.  There isn't an original part on this car - totally constructed via the aftermarket - to make the point that it could be done.  What we have to be aware of is that Dynacorn will / is selling these repro bodies to replace (or rebody) an existing sub frame / rear assembly and calling it a restoration of an original vehicle.

BS (in my humble opinion).

In any event, the next few posts are the highlights.

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General Discussion / Re: Your worst 1st generation Camaro fears - realized

« on: August 04, 2006, 04:25:51 AM »

Wandering around the "Big Boys Toy Store" at Hot August Nights in Reno Wednesday afternoon led me to stumble upon the reval of the '67 Dynacorn SS/RS Camaro that is currently being shown and put together on the tv show Chop, Cut, Rebuild on the Speed Channel.  CCR crew, including the host "Dan" were all there to film an episode for CCR that will air on 4 October.  That episode is the revealing of the car at Hot August Nights this year.

The car finished out white, with blue bumble bee stripe on the front end.  It is badged SS/502.  Firewall has been smoothed and no cowl tag has been installed.  Doors were closed, so I couldn't see the driver's side A pillar to see if there was a VIN tag.  Interior is finished out in white and blue.  4 speed tranny.  Trunk is carrying the bulk of the stereo equipment in addition to a flat screen tv.

Spoke to one of the head honchos there from Dynacorn and he made no bones about how he felt it was ok to "rebody" a car.  I told him flat out that in my opinion, transferring a VIN from an original Camaro to this Taiwanese clone would be unethical.  He tried to offer a lame excuse about how this is just an extension of the restoration process..... BS.

Didn't have my camera with me yesterday.  I spent my time today at a different venue - the swap meet.  Will be back Friday and Saturday and will get some pics, assuming that they will let me take pics.

More later......

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: intake manifold casting numbers

« on: July 30, 2006, 05:31:11 AM »

Dave:

No problem - glad you found a copy close by.

Richard

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: intake manifold casting numbers

« on: July 28, 2006, 02:42:29 PM »

The Chevrolet By the Numbers series is readily available through Amazon or bookstores like Borders or Barnes & Noble.  The pocket references I also picked up at Barnes & Noble - but probably about 10 years ago.  Don't know if they are still readily available or not.  If I was going to buy just one, I'd definitely go with Chevrolet By the Numbers 1965-1969.  Very good reference with drawings, date code info, and pictures to go along with the part number and casting number info.