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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag Check on: February 18, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
The tag is a reproduction for ZL1 #27 N609965. The car sold at B-J Scottsdale 2009 for $319,000. Since it was disclosed as a re-body at the auction it could be said the entire car is effectively a reproduction. I believe the VIN tag is OE.

It has been stated many times previously but bears repeating: there is NO direct correlation between body tag date and body number. The number had nothing to do with production scheduling. Cars built virtually at the same time can have tag numbers 20,000 units apart. The Gibb ZL1s were ordered at the same time and with one exception have sequential body numbers. They were not scheduled in numerical order and built December 27, 1968-March 24, 1969 a span of 88 calendar days. During that time over 66,000 Camaros were built.

This is also a good example of a body tag date not being an absolute indicator of final assembly. N609965 came off the line on or about March 5, 1969.
47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor on: February 16, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
Since both cars have altered tags there is no way to know original build configuration. Buyer beware.
48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor on: February 16, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
sorry, corrected
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor on: February 16, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-1969-Z28-CAMARO-/281267442178?forcerrptr=true&hash=item417cd89202&item=281267442178&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

VIN 124379N643479....08C body tag.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-Numbers-Matching-Z-28-Rallysport-Protect-O-Plate-More-/221374877439?forcerrptr=true&hash=item338af88eff&item=221374877439&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

VIN 124379N640238.....05B X33 D80 body tag
50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Posting Tag Pic for ko-lek-tor on: February 16, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Repro tag.
51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Picture of 69 z top of engine wanted on: February 10, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
The car was a very late 06A based on VIN. I saw it over 10 years ago and will check if I still have notes on it. I did take a photo of the carb w/lines & bracket attached. I'm guessing an early 06A would not have the bracket based on what is known.

It was in a farm field untouched for 26 years-probably still there. Just about anything of value had been removed and was piled in a shed.
52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Picture of 69 z top of engine wanted on: February 10, 2014, 10:01:21 AM
I've seen one on an 06A car.
53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What is it ? on: February 08, 2014, 01:16:11 PM
When I was involved in a Camaro business in the '80s we used to go to the Pomona CA swap meet a couple times a year. One of the locals had a small business converting vinyl-rim NK1 wheels to real wood. He would strip off the vinyl, replace it with wood and re-finish. Probably was not worth the work.

This may be one of his wheels.
54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 04, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
There is/was a one-owner Aug '69 coupe about a mile from here that had one of each.
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Hood Part numbers on: December 31, 2013, 04:44:22 PM
A true '67 SS hood had a different part number than the later '68-'69 version. The 'stacks' required punched holes for the drains.
56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 RS on: December 28, 2013, 01:48:37 PM
I provided that one and several other shipper copies from Martz Chevrolet Menomonee Falls WI when JM did the '69 book 20 years ago. Doug Martz started a Camaro business in the area, I helped out for many years. Dealership and building are long gone.
57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: air cleaner riser on: December 26, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
It is officially known as an extension and is shown in section ZL2 page A3 in the 1969 Camaro Assembly Instruction manual. It fits into the air cleaner body; the flange/seal assembly mounts on top of it.
58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: VIN upper dash panel question on: December 19, 2013, 03:45:55 PM
How was it re-attached?
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Back up light switch 4 speed help. on: December 18, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
For '69 the back-up lights were activated by a switch at the base of the steering column inside the car. With the reverse lock-out system, placing the trans in reverse rotated the column, activating the switch.
60  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Trim Tag on: December 11, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
The body number was generated when Central Office confirmed the dealers order. Many orders were cancelled and never built for a variety of reasons; about 27% to be exact. Also, cars were not built in body number order. The next car off the line might have a number 10,000 higher/lower than yours. All this makes knowing the number impossible without original paperwork.

Repro tags are easy to spot and will raise suspicions about the car.     
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