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1096  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct shifter on: June 10, 2006, 08:00:54 PM
Inland Mfg was a supplier to the auto industry and manufactured the infamous "Muncie" shifter.

It had a number of design, engineering and manufacturing inadequacies, the most egregious being that it was not mounted on the transmission but to the trans crossmember. Under hard acceleration the engine/trans would twist slightly causing the shifter to bind. After a few hard shifts the knob mounting stud would snap off, perhaps sending your hand into the dash. With age the reverse slider, all of 1/8" thick at the gate, would break and rotate forward preventing shifting to reverse. Even when new neutral was hard to find. Cars built with a console had the shifter area covered with a black plastic plate that moved with the shifter. It would rattle and was immediately scratched and worn.

Just about every period magazine road test of a 4-speed Chevy complained about the shifter. If I bought a flawless original 67 or 68 Camaro that still had it I would remove it.

POS = piece of crap

1097  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: disc brake rotors on: June 09, 2006, 09:31:17 PM
Yes.
1098  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct shifter on: June 09, 2006, 07:09:02 PM
No Hurst shifter '67 or '68. Should have the POS Inland shifter with the "MUNCIE" embossing on the lever.

Finding all the parts, rods, levers to put an original shifter together will be difficult.
1099  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 z/28 connecting rods on: May 29, 2006, 10:21:09 AM
Others with more knowledge should jump in.

First of all "pink" rods are not all that special. They are standard sb forgings shot-peened to eliminate stress risers and then magnafluxed to check for cracks. They were then coded with pink paint to differentiate them in production. In addition to the processes mentioned mid-68 and all 69 302 rods were machined for full floating pins. All 67 and early 68 302 engines had press-in pins. I believe 70-up LT1 engines used press-in pins.

What I do not know is if pistons designed for floating pins can be used with press-in pins.
If not you may have 67 style pistons. Standard bore 69 302 pistons were out of production for some time and perhaps the engine was simply rebuilt with 67s. Or, worst case, it is no longer a 302.

If this is a restoration-rebuild I wouldn't concern myself with having correct "pink" rods with full-floating pins. If the engine is to see hi-perf usage there are aftermarket rods way better than the stock stuff. We did a 69 302 rebuild from scratch almost 20 years ago and the rods we found back then were junk.

1100  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / 1969 Camaro SS L78 on: May 23, 2006, 06:42:47 PM
Over 20 years ago a friend stored a Garnet red L78 car at my house, eventually selling it there. I have discovered the original vinyl bag with owners manual and warranty folder with protect-o-plate.

The VIN was 124379N655xxx. It was sold in the early 80s from an ad in Old Cars and may be in Michigan.

If this sounds familiar, get in touch.
1101  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Walnut or Rosewood?? on: May 16, 2006, 09:55:35 PM
The change from Walnut to Rosewood for the '69 N34 wheel took place late in November 1968.
1102  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Woodgrain horn shroud on: May 14, 2006, 08:46:55 PM
3972735 was the last GM part number for a black shroud with woodgrain insert. Other colors would have had different numbers.

1103  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 09, 2006, 12:05:29 PM
Would a 69 SS equipped with 14"x 7" wheels come with a 14"x6" spare wheel? What color would the spare wheel be?

John

All 5 wheel/tire assemblies matched unless the car was ordered with N65 space-saver spare, available only with 14" wheels.
1104  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Impossible to document? on: May 06, 2006, 02:12:21 PM
Many if not most surviving musclecars do not have original paperwork. Mine did not and it never bothered me.

Working the other angle I acquired a lot of '60s paperwork from a Chevrolet dealer, only a few of the cars seem to have survived.

The paint is interesting. This is the 2nd Z/28 I know of with - - paint due to
non-standard stripe color, the other being Le Mans blue with black stripes.

Even if you had the OE window sticker or invoice all it would state is "special paint".
1105  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Impossible to document? on: May 06, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
Van Nuys built 69s [L VIN] often have a Broadcast Sheet taped to the top of the fuel tank.

Check it out.
1106  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What other rear end differentials will fit a 69 Camaro? on: May 06, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
There are others that will work [65-67 Chevelle, 68-74 Nova, 70 Camaro].

If you are intending to start with a 12 bolt axle they are expensive to acquire, expensive to restore/rebuild and will still have the built-in design limitations, namely drum brakes and C-clip axle retention. Cutting/welding on the axle tubes can warp and weaken them. Many 12 bolt axles were in cars that were abused; I've seen cracked center sections and bent housings.

By the time you are done buying, rebuilding and modifying you will have spent close to the cost of a new custom-built 9" or 12 bolt with discs, better axle retention and the ratio of your choice.

Were I building a hot rod that is what I would do.
1107  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Calling on you Camaro Experts. Nobody has been able to figure this out yet! on: May 05, 2006, 12:22:12 PM
That is a plant scheduling code used only at Van Nuys; has nothing to do with the configuration of the vehicle. The code is alpha-numeric so it is merely a coincidence that yours has a Z. The next day probably started back at A001.
1108  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How Many 1969 Z28 Rally Sport Camaros Were Built? on: May 02, 2006, 09:24:59 PM
No.
1109  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: YH wheel dates on: May 02, 2006, 12:39:00 PM
Also used on 1970 Monte Carlo
1110  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X77 Rally Sport - is this possible? on: April 27, 2006, 06:35:21 PM
Nope.
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