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1081  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: sandblasting? on: December 04, 2006, 08:31:06 PM
Having done my share of sandblasting I strongly recommend that you have a professional shop do the work. Sandblasting of this magnitude [entire floorpan] requires a large compressor and sanblasting equipment, all of which can be rented. The car will need to be suspended; don't even consider lying under it. It will take a lot of sand and is incredibly noisy & messy. You will also need personal protective equipment. Inhaling sand is hazardous and it can easily end up in your nose, ears and eyes.

Sandblasting can warp and work-harden metal so you do not want to do any exterior sheet metal. If you get careless it will instantly ruin glass. There will be sand in the car forever.

Were I to do a car again I would first remove all panels due to be replaced and would seriously consider having the remainder of the paint/rust chemically stripped. There are rust-neutralizing solutions now available that are far more thorough than sandblasting. Hot Rod did a feature on this topic in the June 2006 issue.
1082  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro disc brake rearend on: December 03, 2006, 07:03:08 PM
It could be a conversion using late '70s Cadillac Seville rear discs. They were built off a Nova platform and I understand the discs bolt-on.
1083  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help decoding my 69 vin on: December 02, 2006, 12:25:41 PM
The U73 Manual Rear Antenna option was not available with spoilers. The dealer should have noted the error and requested new documents. Errors like this aren't all that unusual. When a Camaro window label has the VIN entirely printed rather than stamped that is usually the reason.

AM front masts were telescopic, FM was fixed-height.


2467=8 cylinder convertible
9=1969 model year
N=Norwood, Ohio final assembly plant
637627=137,627 unit built at Norwood

NOR 319187=unit # assigned at time of dealer order
TR 720=Orange Houndstooth interior
50=Dover white lower body color
A=white convertible top
05A=body assembly started 1st week May 1969
Z11=Indianapolis 500 Pace Car accents

1084  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Cowl Induction Air Cleaner Question on: December 01, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
It is likely the insulation was not cut correctly. There was only one flange & seal for all applications.

Original equipment ducted hood air cleaners did not have chrome lids. For some time in the '80s GM service replacement units were supplied with chrome lids.
1085  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl/Vin Match on: November 13, 2006, 08:57:10 PM
Tag looks fine.

It is in the db.
1086  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69Z orig goodyear tires on: November 11, 2006, 02:23:48 PM
Yup; E70 x 15 Wide Tread GT with "NYLON" molded into the side wall.

I believe repros are "POLYESTER"
1087  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: were there any 68s with headrest on: November 02, 2006, 09:26:36 PM
Yes head rests were optional for 1968.
1088  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 350 SS EXHAUST BRACKET on: October 31, 2006, 08:07:27 PM
All 1969 dual exhaust coupes received the reinforcement plate on the LH frame rail only. Convertibles did not need it due to heavier gauge frame rails.
1089  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: TACH ON THE DASH on: October 31, 2006, 01:24:52 PM
That was a dealer accessory; not factory installed.
1090  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct locaton of proportionong valve on sub frame on: October 06, 2006, 06:59:57 PM
I did not consider it the prop valve because the explanation in the November 1969 Chevrolet Service News refers to it as a "pressure regulating valve" 5 times in the short article.

Not all disc/drum Camaros had it; some drum brake cars have it.

What I consider the prop valve is the one under the master, Chevy calls it a "pressure metering valve" and also a "pressure regulating valve", point being disc/drum cars have to have it.

I checked the Assembly and Chassis Service Manuals-no mention of "proportioning valve".
1091  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Turbo 400 and column shifter on: October 06, 2006, 12:09:36 PM
Of the 50 '69 ZL1s ordered by Fred Gibb Chev 20 were T400 and all had column shifts.
1092  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: power team orders/axel ratio's on: October 03, 2006, 12:36:43 PM
You could specify anything on the power teams chart. I do not have the info with me but 4.56 & 4.88 were RPO ratios with certain engine/trans combos for 1968.

Things changed a bit for 1969; 4.56 & 4.88 were no longer RPO. However you could get either via the COPO process. I have copies of docs for a '69 Z/28 built with '88s and a COPO 9561 built with '56s.

That means a triple COPO is a possibility: 9511, 9561, 9737.
1093  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct locaton of proportionong valve on sub frame on: October 02, 2006, 12:03:32 PM
That is not the prop valve.
1094  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X Codes on: September 24, 2006, 06:38:32 PM
Hugger orange convertible with black top, black standard interior. Body started in production the 4th week of May 1969 at the Norwood Ohio assembly plant.

For reasons unknown there were a number of convertibles built at that time with no X code on the tag.

You are free to do as you please with your car. If you wish to build the car as an SS with all the proper componentry and call it a clone, tribute, re-creation, go right ahead.
1095  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: X Codes on: September 17, 2006, 07:45:32 PM
I have to preface a statement with some history about myself.

I bought my 1st 1969 Camaro Z/28 in 1975. Sold it 2 years later, bought another and on and on. From 1983-1997 I was involved with a business selling 1st gen Camaro parts. In those days the cars were plentiful and we parted dozens of them, set up/attended hundreds of swap meets, prowled junk yards from coast to coast, bought and sold an incredible amount of 1st gen Camaro parts during that time. We were small - D & R and Z & Z [to name a few] had many many times more cars & parts than we did. We sold it all: MO & DZ 302 engines, Muncie 4-speeds, '837' alternators, disc brake subframes, 12-bolt axles including 2 BEs, a complete JL8 setup, aluminum intakes including a cross-ram, factory Holley carbs, wheels, glass, sheetmetal including RS conversions and compete bodies supplied by our friends out West. In this time we helped many people restore and unfortunately unwittingly create cars.

This nonsense about claiming a car is an SS, Z/28 or whatever because it has 4-leaf springs, front discs or a 12-bolt has got to stop. We sold all that stuff many times over as did all other Camaro vendors at the time, 23 years ago. While certain characteristcs may have validity such a Z/28 without a Muncie speedo cable routing anything else can be and has been added. The famous '69 LH tailpipe plate takes about a minute to remove intact from a parts car and has been reproduced. And I grabbed many of the meaningless rear brakeline valves in junkyards. Body tags? Don't make me laugh. Those were being swapped 25 years ago. A few years ago I was visiting another vendor who showed me literally hundreds of them in an old toolbox.

The only way you can be certain of a cars' pedigree is genuine factory paperwork or irrefutable VIN-stamped drivetrain componentry.

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