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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...tag swap
« on: October 28, 2023, 03:57:28 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394964951100

124379N593936

VIN tag is from a Camaro built at the Norwood, OH plant on or about February 7, 1969

Body tag is from a Camaro built at the Van Nuys, CA plant on or about December 5, 1968.

The car was auctioned April 2005; con VIN on the cowl at that time was 9L511245. As the original VIN tag installation has been breached, titling and registration could be a problem.



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General Discussion / Re: Interesting period photos.... :)
« on: October 25, 2023, 03:47:36 AM »
That is likely N500003, a Pilot built on a '68 floor pan. No body tag. Hard to believe they sold it.

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Restamp IMHO.

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General Discussion / Re: Late '69 3/8 Fuel line
« on: October 21, 2023, 04:19:56 PM »
That's not accurate.

For '69, Chevy used different motor mounts and frame brackets for the 307/327 and 302/350 engines. The 307/327 parts were carried over from 67-68. 302/350 frame brackets/mounts were a new design, incorporating an interlock feature. The frame brackets are shorter and narrower; the mounts are taller.

The problem arises when 67-68 motor mounts are used on the '69 302/350 frame bracket. They fit but are wider. It is a sloppy fit, and will allow the engine to move around, causing perpetual clutch chatter and some fitment problems as the engine will be positioned too low.   

Each design places the engine in the same position. Don't mix the parts.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Block Stampings
« on: October 14, 2023, 06:49:28 PM »
There was no 04D at Norwood so has to be a Van Nuys built car. N556334 is a Norwood VIN, final-assembled on or about December 6, 1968.

Something has been re-stamped.



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General Discussion / Re: Paint Finish on Dash
« on: October 12, 2023, 06:25:28 PM »
Lacquer with a suede additive to knock down glare.

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General Discussion / Re: VN vs NOR Assembly/Production Differences?
« on: October 12, 2023, 06:15:06 PM »
That’s a great question; surprised it hasn’t been brought up previously.

Van Nuys produced 31,163 ‘69s, 12.8% of the total. Distribution was initially limited to the western US, primarily CA, AZ, NV, WA, OR. The rest of the US received cars built at Norwood. Van Nuys stopped building ‘69s at the end of June 1969. Norwood continued producing ‘69s through mid-July 1969 when it shut down for the annual model changeover. Only, there wasn’t one. The 1970 Camaro tooling was not ready, so Norwood resumed producing ‘69s as of August 11. Van Nuys did not. Dealers that had received Camaros from the Van Nuys plant were now supplied by Norwood.

The Van Nuys plant was on strike April 28 - June 1. Some VN orders may have been diverted to NOR. The survivor L78 SS seen at MCACN a few years ago was built at NOR April 30 and shipped 1,800 miles to Tucson, AZ.

While many people have deep experience with ‘69s, it is most often limited to one plant; few people seem to have experience with cars from both. It has taken a long time to note the differences that are known. Here’s a few others:

Some VN Z/28s have the rear striping in the vinyl top configuration even on cars w/o vinyl tops. A few very early VN Z/28s have the 1968 rear stripe layout. VN was much neater painting the stripe color on top of the cowl; early NOR cars can be very sloppy. Also, appears VN was more precise in masking the wiper panel for stripes.

NOR typically sprayed sound deadener in a squared-off pattern on the inside of the rear quarter panels behind the outer wheelhouse. Have not seen that on VN builds.

Cars built with dual exhaust at Van Nuys have been found with the tail pipes painted black.

The foam pads at the top of the cowl are glued to the wiper panel on NOR builds, glued to the body at VN.

VN used the same body tag blank for the entire production run. NOR switched to the larger tag mid-November 1968.

On NOR builds through the end of October '68 with green, red or blue interiors, the VIN tag paint matched the top of the dash. Starting November '68, they were black suede for all colors. Fairly certain VN VIN tags were always black.

I’m sure there were other differences.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Block Stampings
« on: October 09, 2023, 07:11:25 PM »
A manual trans 1969 Camaro L48 engine would be an HA code.

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General Discussion / Re: Types of Screws/Washers used on Rocker Spears
« on: October 09, 2023, 01:50:15 PM »
AMK is the best supplier for original type hardware.


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Originality / Re: Unique Radio/Stereo Combination for 69’ Camaro
« on: October 08, 2023, 03:59:06 PM »
A car built with a stereo sound system would not have a front center speaker.

It could have been built with a tape player only, later retrofitted with a radio and front speaker.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro body tag?
« on: October 07, 2023, 02:09:50 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145349058511

124379N576444

Have info on the car dating to 1998. At that time, it did not have spoilers, original engine or trans. Body tag data was 01B 59 59 723 X33.

It has come a long way.

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General Discussion / Re: Fuel Delivery
« on: October 07, 2023, 01:45:02 PM »
Chevy did consider a 3 x 2 option for the SS350 in 1967. Did not make production but got close as a few 0-casting manifolds are known to exist.

Lots of speculation as to why it did not make production; too expensive, low projected sales, didn't make power.









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General Discussion / Re: M22 vin number
« on: October 07, 2023, 04:44:15 AM »
A warranty replacement trans would have an additional stamping such as CT9 and a 5-digit serial number.

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Originality / Re: oil fill tube on intake manifold-is it original?
« on: October 05, 2023, 12:01:40 AM »
No.

For '69, small blocks had an oil fill cap on the LH rocker cover. The hole for the tube on the intake was plugged.

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