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Restoration / Re: 12 bolt restoration
« on: December 28, 2005, 04:23:15 PM »
I believe axle housings were painted [glossy black] immediately after machining. Assembly paint daubs were later applied on the axle paint. Since the axle paint wasn't very good it did not adhere for long particularly in rust belt states. Brake components and axle parts [flange, etc] should not be painted. The rear axle cover and backing plates were likely received already painted. In my opinion cast-blast is not correct for axle housings.

Another common error is cast-blast for rear brake drums. There are photos in several vintage magazines showing the installation of t-bars or gears; drums were semi-gloss black. 

Originality / Re: 1969 z/28 ignition coil (early z/28 october 1968)
« on: December 22, 2005, 06:08:28 PM »
John Z is correct.

SB duct hood cars used a coil assembly with the '66-'67 275/327 bracket. It positions the coil at slightly greater angle from vertical to clear the larger ducted hood breather.

Originality / Re: 67/8/9 lower control arms
« on: December 21, 2005, 03:21:03 AM »
67 arms have spot welded nuts for the lower shock mount. 69s used a J-nut.

General Discussion / Re: 1969 L78 camaro convertable
« on: December 20, 2005, 06:21:45 PM »
I have paperwork copies for 3 [Frost green, Burnished brown, Z11] and know of 2 more. That's 5. 11 is a number someone pulled out of the air, like the "only 34" bb Z11s.

No one knows, not even Chevrolet.

General Discussion / Re: Catalytic converters on 69' Camaro !
« on: December 18, 2005, 05:06:17 PM »
Here in Wisconsin [Milwaukee & 3 adjoining counties] 1968-up must go through emissions testing unless the car has collectors tags, available to vehicles over 20 years old. Applying for collector status requires a final test. Rural areas generally do not require testing.

HP cars can be a problem. I have heard of all sorts of schemes such as testing the car with a different engine.

General Discussion / Re: REAR END DATE
« on: December 13, 2005, 06:17:45 PM »
Ok now I understand.

Every Camaro with paperwork is a fake 'cuz Wayne sez so.

General Discussion / Re: REAR END DATE
« on: December 13, 2005, 04:45:09 PM »
Any Camaro witha rearend more than a couple weeks out from build date makes me figure that things got changed.

So you are stating that the 2 owner 67 Z/28 with POP and 100% OE drivetrain, purchased in 1987 long before repro anything is bogus because you say so.

So you are stating that the 2 owner 69 L78 with POP and OE drivetrain, purchased in 1981 long before repro anything is bogus because you say so.

As for SS cars, the 3-speed floor shift was standard equipment.

You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. When you have some facts feel free to share them.

General Discussion / Re: REAR END DATE
« on: December 12, 2005, 06:24:27 PM »
For the 1969 model year there were 243,085 Camaros manufactured. Do not form opinions about them because you've looked at 50 cars.

Originality / Re: 69 X77 code Camaro Many fact questions.
« on: December 12, 2005, 06:19:31 PM »
First gen Camaros have what GM identified as a "steering knuckle" same L-R. The steering arms bolted to the knuckles. I believe 2nd gens have a 1-pc assembly.

General Discussion / Re: REAR END DATE
« on: December 11, 2005, 11:35:59 PM »
In my experience much of what people assume about drivetrain date codes relative to the car is incorrect.

Our 06E '67 Z/28 had a July 6 engine, a March 20 rear axle and a June 23 trans. All OE components, POP to back it up. A good thing too since conventional wisdom would have people believing the axle was not original. The car also had its original alternator dated December 1966.

A fluke? Nope. I have the POP from a friends' long-lost 06A L78 car:  April 29 engine, May 6 axle, March 14 trans.

Originality / Re: 69 X77 code Camaro Many fact questions.
« on: December 11, 2005, 11:22:46 PM »
Nope, about 99.99% of 1969 Camaros used the same manual or power steering gear. If you ordered N44 on a non-SS/Z/28 the only difference was the longer pitman/shorter steering arms. Drum brake N44 cars received different backing plates.

Restoration / Re: 1968 U80 Speaker Grille
« on: December 09, 2005, 08:54:38 PM »
It was painted with the same finish as the top of the dash, interior color with suede additive.

Originality / Re: 69 X77 code Camaro Many fact questions.
« on: November 24, 2005, 05:22:47 PM »
Z/28 standard fast-ratio steering was acomplished by steering linkage changes. The standard manual steering gear was utilized with a longer pitman arm and shorter steering arms.

Z/28s ordered with N44 [very few] also had a fast-ratio manual steering gear. It makes for miserable driving.

All 1969 Camaros with power steering used the same steering gear. Z/28s & SS so equipped used the fast ratio linkage pieces. A Z/28 with ps will have a pump with a deep groove pulley.

Restoration / Re: Trunk Spatter Paint Color for 1st Gens.
« on: November 19, 2005, 01:05:07 AM »

The 11/71 rev of the R-M 1969 Chevrolet colors lists trunk paint as #844 black-gray-aqua multiflek.

We used it and it matched.

Originality / Re: Black Firewall Paint
« on: November 18, 2005, 06:27:30 PM »
There was an excellent book "The Great Camaro" written many years ago. In it there is an assembly line photo of the front sheet metal being positioned on a '67 body. The firewall is clearly body color.

The photo could be staged, could be a pilot car. Take it with a grain of salt. No one has seen every car built.

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