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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad
« on: June 20, 2018, 09:28:29 PM »
From the ad:

This Z28 is a very, very rare early 1969 Van Nuys California built L code car.

There were 31,163 '69 Camaros built at Van Nuys; not rare at all. It is also a late production car, built on or about April 11, 1969.

No mention of a Body Broadcast Copy commonly found on Van Nuys built Camaros. No original docs. No VIN stamped drive train components. Axle was cast in January, 73 days prior to estimated final assembly. Where is proof this is really a Z/28?

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad
« on: June 20, 2018, 04:37:36 PM »


First line of text from the ad:

Here we have an all original three owner 1969 Z28 survivor with 66,045 miles on it.

Ballsy claim for a non-original drive train car that has been repainted. Missing AIR system, wrong exhaust manifolds, alternator, air cleaner lid, rear wheels, grille incorrectly painted. Ad claims deluxe seat belts; pic shows standard belts.

Wonder why there is no sound deadener on those 'original' rear quarter panels?

For that matter there are very few cars in this original condition in existence.

You be the judge.

'69 Z/28s used two wheel codes, depending on when the car was built. Both were 15" x 7". Cars built prior to mid-Dec '68 used AD wheels; YH afterwards. A 12C build may have either.

Tire size was E70 x 15; either Firestone Sport Car 200 or Goodyear Wide Tread GT. There were no wheel/tire options; space saver spare was not available with 15" wheels.

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another tag mismatch
« on: June 08, 2018, 01:25:37 AM »


That's the VIN from the ad; would have been final assembled on or about October 5, 1968 at the Norwood, Ohio plant. The body tag shown is from a car built early December, 1968 at the Van Nuys, CA plant. They restored the car to match the tag.

From the ad:


Unfortunately, the tag is not original to the car.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor..block stamp
« on: June 05, 2018, 03:19:52 AM »
No wheel options for '69 Z/28. All built with 5 15 x 7 rally wheels.

This car, built early Nov '68, would have had AD wheels.

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor..block stamp
« on: June 04, 2018, 11:07:19 PM »


Block stamped V1105DZ: looks nothing like the Nov '68 examples I have.

From the ad: It is a very early November 1968 Norwood built car pre (X-coded) that maintains it original matching numbers Dz 302.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat tag?
« on: June 01, 2018, 11:42:49 PM »
Re-listed. Apparently ignored all the advice he didn't want to hear.

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another tag mismatch
« on: June 01, 2018, 11:36:05 PM »


Car was final-assembled on or about November 5, 1968. Has an 02B body tag, 2nd week February 1969. Tag is real but from another car.

From the ad:

Real x-11 Norwood build car

Correct color combo Factory code 76 Daytona Yellow

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another tag mismatch
« on: May 29, 2018, 05:00:36 PM »


Car was final-assembled on or about December 6, 1968. Has an 02A body tag, 1st week February 1969. Tag is real but from another car; didn't even bother to paint the rivets.

General Discussion / Re: Tachometers
« on: May 22, 2018, 02:41:17 AM »
It's buried in the description of what is included with Rally-Sport equipment. From intro to 12/68 it included directional lenses with bright metal trim. After 12/68, mention of the lens trim was dropped. In production, they used up remaining inventory on all cars, not just RS.

General Discussion / Re: Tachometers
« on: May 22, 2018, 01:44:27 AM »
The only documented production part changes I am aware of were the side terminal battery and chromed tailpipes as of May 19th. The tailpipes involved a change in option pricing so dealers were notified. The D90 stripe change, RS directional lens, '69 rear spoiler, YH wheels and others all just happened.

General Discussion / Re: Tachometers
« on: May 21, 2018, 03:42:11 PM »
Chevy built almost 4,000 Camaros the first week of November '69. We have few cars in the db from that period.

General Discussion / Re: Tachometers
« on: May 21, 2018, 12:14:58 AM »
There is no telling what they had in stock or on order at the end of July '69. Minimum order size is a factor; if for example, each tach had a 1000 pc order minimum, the 6/7 was slower moving and more likely to have an inventory surplus. When '69 production was extended, they probably were not certain how long it would last.

The July/August 1996 Camaro Enthusiast had a feature on a '69 Z/28 project, built during the last week of production. Had the 6500/8000 tach, 1112003 distributor and black-face Nova gauges.

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