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Decoding/Numbers / COPO L72 production?
« on: March 11, 2017, 02:07:51 PM »
It’s been known for some time that Chevrolet included COPOs in L78 data. COPO build records for cars shipped to Canada list L78 but not Z27 [Camaro SS]. The same records for SS350s list L48 and Z27.

Many years ago Len Williamson gained access to production data at Chevrolet. He compiled a book “Tailfins and Bowties” that listed production quantities for virtually everything. 1969 Camaro build totals by engine do not list either 427 engine but still total 243,085. Len noted L78 totals likely included COPOs.

“There are significant disconnects in engine production versus vehicle production involving Z28 in 67 and ZL1/L72 in 69. It is possible that 67 Z28 was recorded by the factory as 327 production, and ZL1/L72 as L78 production.”

I had seen some of the numbers but not the complete book. Rich Fields, one of the CRG Founders, recently provided a copy. Some digging required, but the L72 total may have been there all along.

Camaro SS production is shown as 34,932. Total L48 300hp 350 [std on Camaro SS] production is shown as 22,339. 396 engine [required Camaro SS] totals are 13,659. 22,339 + 13,659 = 35,998.

That’s 1,066 more than Camaro SS.

There were 69 COPO 9560 ZL1s; interpolating the data leaves 997 COPO 9561 L72s. Actual L78 production total would be 3,823.
 

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Decoding/Numbers / Export Camaro
« on: February 24, 2017, 04:45:33 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/282372765745?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41beba7831:g:930AAOSwSlBYsEiO&item=282372765745

Here's a twist: something that actually is rare and the dealer doesn't even mention it. Check out the body tag.

124379N575631

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...yet another carefully worded ad
« on: February 05, 2017, 04:50:07 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/332115085560?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d539a08f8:g:hrEAAOSwUKxYlo5n&item=332115085560

Some wordsmithery here. It's a "...correct stamped VIN# and DZ-302 V8." Well, sort of. Could have made a better guess on the date.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« on: February 01, 2017, 04:34:40 PM »

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro window sticker
« on: January 31, 2017, 03:55:44 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/322407746041?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4b10ffc9f9:g:70UAAOSwA3dYj50k&item=322407746041

Ad states: "Original Window Sticker included!"

VIN is 124379L502362; built in Van Nuys CA and shipped 2,800 miles to NY. Charge was $49. Might have made more sense to build it at Norwood, 677 miles from the dealer but what do I know. Couldn't even list the option codes in alphabetical order.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor..whoopsie
« on: January 27, 2017, 02:03:02 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS-RS-/152411805310?forcerrptr=true&hash=item237c73967e:g:FHQAAOSwnHZYiYro&item=152411805310

Ad states "...the trim tag (X22D80) on the car is correct per the person he bought the car from (believe it or not)."

One vote for not.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad again
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:21:40 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-10-RS-SS-/112266554302?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a239babbe:g:ofcAAOSwnHZYc~UU&item=112266554302

It's a Z10 being advertised as having a "period-correct" 396 engine and M21 4-speed. While there is no mention of paperwork, an obviously reproduction window sticker [plenty of errors] is in the photo array and lists an L34 350hp 396 and M21 trans.

There is no claim in the ad this is an original 396 Z10. Assume at your own risk. 

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...huh?
« on: January 07, 2017, 06:20:23 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/112261687166?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a2351677e:g:~jgAAOSw-0xYQyY~&item=112261687166

Body tag looks new to me. Non-original engine, non-original paint & trim. No mention of trans or axle.

Proceed with caution.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...check those tags
« on: December 31, 2016, 04:38:51 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-2-DOOR-CONVERTIBLE-/391663694150?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b30f9b146:g:kacAAOSwZJBX~vN4&item=391663694150

124679N648864

Dash top has been replaced with the poor repro part so the VIN tag has been out. Pic of the body tag is fuzzy but I see enough to wonder about it.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...ad is missing 'recreation'.
« on: December 30, 2016, 10:06:39 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-SS-/232190088165?forcerrptr=true&hash=item360f9b93e5:g:0tQAAOSwnHZYWxFz&item=232190088165

Ad lists VIN [twice] as 123679N662819. That is a six cylinder VIN. Car cannot be an original SS as stated.

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