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181

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag

« on: December 08, 2018, 03:04:21 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-Z28/173680473800?hash=item287029b6c8:g:goIAAOSwnWpcCqXQ:rk:8:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N666745

From the ad:

"ALL NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, IT HAS THE ORIGINAL DZ 302 THAT WAS REBUILT AT THE TIME ,ALSO THE ORIGINAL M21 MUNCIE THAT WAS REBUILT , AS WAS THE REAR END..."

That VIN was final-assembled on or about July 8, 1969

Claimed engine date is February 6; 152 days prior. Trans is dated Dec 27, 1968 [not 69 as stated]; 193 days prior. Axle date is close but may not be OE to this car.

Body tag has errors; 07C would be the third week of July. Norwood was shut down July 14-Aug 11.

Not its 1st rodeo:

https://www.camaros.net/forums/15-tag-team/242274-cowl-tag-1969-z28.html

CAR SPEAKS FOR ITSELF

It sure does!

182

Decoding/Numbers / interesting but rough...

« on: December 07, 2018, 01:38:24 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-2dr-Coupe-Z28/202528283274?hash=item2f27a05a8a:g:Du4AAOSw6X1cCiim:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr

Has the very rare 6500/8000 tach/fuel gauge and the axle is still there. But short of getting it for much less than the BIN, probably too rough to build.

183

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag

« on: November 29, 2018, 11:23:56 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Convertible-RS-SS-396/233025071544?hash=item36416069b8:g:y-EAAOSw5iRb~0QZ:rk:28:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124679N567305

Car was final-assembled on or about December 24, 1968. That's 6 weeks prior to the release of the Z11 option.

184

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...altered/swapped tag

« on: November 12, 2018, 01:06:57 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS-327-Auto-Frame-Off-Restoration-All-New/312314697292?hash=item48b768164c:g:6dgAAOSw96Zb6QJ2:rk:3:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N542215

That VIN was final-assembled on or about November 14, 1968. Car has a 09C body tag, 3rd week September, 1969. One or both tags are not original to the car.

185

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...altered/swapped tag

« on: November 05, 2018, 04:29:38 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro/332868340486?hash=item4d807fcb06:g:JqwAAOSwdW5b4FO5:rk:1:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N648517

That VIN was final-assembled on or about May 27, 1969. Car has a 12A body tag, 1st week December, 1968. One or both tags are not original to the car.

186

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...altered/swapped tag

« on: October 26, 2018, 12:16:07 AM »

http://www.detroit60.com/id251.htm

124379N706456...final-assembled on or about October 29,1969.

Body tag is X33D80 02B second week February, 1969.

One or both tags are not original to the car. The dash top is a reproduction meaning the VIN tag has been removed.

From the ad: As well, this is a by the numbers restoration with everything restored accurate to its original Norwood cowl tag right down to its desirable 10 10 Tuxedo Black color code.

187

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another tag mismatch

« on: October 18, 2018, 01:01:51 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-Bad-Boy-SEE-VIDEO/232970391732?hash=item363e1e10b4:g:2nUAAOSwT0pbyAsD:rk:6:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N631633

Car was final-assembled on or about April 22, 1969. Has an 10A body tag, 1st week October 1969. One or both tags are not original to the car.

From the ad: Because life is too short to drive a boring car!

True. If the VIN tag has been swapped, owning this car will get exciting.

188

Decoding/Numbers / It's back!

« on: October 16, 2018, 04:38:18 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-R-S-Z28/153220391243?hash=item23aca5a14b:g:59wAAOSwhnhbxSW~:rk:12:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N695328

Ad states: Sold as is

Previous discussion:

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=16173.0

189

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad again

« on: October 09, 2018, 07:22:39 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-SS-RS-CONVERTIBLE/392144075199?hash=item5b4d9bb9bf:g:foUAAOSwhN5bvPO-:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr

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The ad makes no mention of Indy Pace Car or Z11 but it does have the door decals. Built too early to be a real Z11.

190

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag

« on: September 24, 2018, 01:41:35 AM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS/302895546717?hash=item4685fb415d:g:x8gAAOSw6-NbqC23&vxp=mtr

124379N668491

191

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...big problems

« on: September 21, 2018, 12:56:32 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/113261557385?hash=item1a5eea3689:g:gJsAAOSwG3RbpGKP&vxp=mtr

124379L512848

The slideshow on the website has chassis pics, no LH tailpipe adapter. About that pad stamp...

192

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...ad is missing 'clone'

« on: September 20, 2018, 03:43:00 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS/153186277250?hash=item23aa9d1782:g:n48AAOSwq6pboZ~f&vxp=mtr

VIN not listed.

From the ad:

1969 CAMARO SS396 FACTORY 4 SPEED AIR CONDITION SHOW CAR
YES IT IS A NORTH CAROLINA ORIGINAL MATCHING NUMBER CAR

The X11 body tag says otherwise.

CHECK OUR FEEDBACK NO GAMES HERE

193

Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...check those tags

« on: September 01, 2018, 03:31:20 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camaro/312229803265?hash=item48b258b501:g:DAkAAOSwttlbiiw5&vxp=mtr

124679N674379

Repro body tag. VIN tag was removed when dash top was replaced.

Proceed with caution.

194

Decoding/Numbers / check it out...

« on: August 30, 2018, 09:25:10 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-RS/323420705904?hash=item4b4d605470:g:4iYAAOSw~B9bh05K&vxp=mtr

If you wanted a rare Z/28, check this one out. It's black now but was originally Azure Turquoise.

195

Decoding/Numbers / HMM 1969 Camaro feature

« on: August 28, 2018, 04:07:32 PM »

Just received the October 2018 Hemmings Muscle Machines. The issue features a “Buyers Guide: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS396.” Always willing to learn, I checked it out immediately. I was surprised and disappointed by the errors in the article.

The Rosetta stone for Chevrolet production data is the report obtained in the late ‘80s from Chevrolet by Len Williamson for his book “Tailfins and Bowties.” The totals were as of December 31, 1969 and included the extended production run for the 1969 Camaro.

HMN lists total production as 230,799; actual production was 243,085. They list Camaro SS production as 32,932; actual production was 34,932. SS w/396 engine is shown as 12,904; actual is 12,593; he incorrectly included L89 cars in the total. L89 was an aluminum cylinder head option that required the L78 engine.

The article states the M20 wide-ratio 4-speed was not available with the L78 engine. That’s incorrect; not only is it listed as an option for the L78 engine, several L72 COPOs were built with the M20. Also stated is that BB engines required a special rocker cover to clear the power brake booster. That’s not true; only BB Corvettes required it.  Also stated, X22 and X66 body tags indicate an SS396. Some early production COPOs also had X22 and X66 tags. The article states that there were some SS396 Camaros built with 4 wheel disc brakes; no documented JL8 SS is known to exist [the two track Z11s were converted to JL8 by the Tech Center]. He also states “All Super Sports received the D90 hockey stick fender stripe unless special paint was ordered.” Also not true; there are a few known special paint SS cars with the D90 stripe. The article never mentions Z10s, many of which were SS396s.

I'm sure a lot of work went into the 5-page feature. Too bad.