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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 30, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Determining if trim rings were original to a car is difficult as many fell off damaged or discarded. My belief is that the serrated internal type were used on late production cars ( 69 carry over-70 production) . I've certified two absolutely unrestored Oct built Z28's (both achieved Legend Certification) that had the internal serrated /fingers type trim rings. I specifically looked for the four clip markings on the lips and did not find any. I suspect that the internal serrated/ finger attached trim ring were phased in during the 1970 model production (Camaros built Sept-Nov of 69). Another example for instance were 69 SS Chevelles which used the 4 clip trim rings exclusively, but from what I've seen all 70 Chevelles have had the serrated /finger trim rings. I confirmed this with Chris White who is a Vintage Certification team member, and a well known Chevelle authority.

Last I've attached a picture of my 9A built Z spare(I orig purchased in 1976). The original rim is dated 5/19 along with orig sports car 200, and original factory applied paint. You will note that the spare was used for a very short time and a trim ring was installed which based on the markings was the internal serrated type. I looked for clip markings on the outer lip and none were found. However Gary's car (69Z28-RS with the ugly orange interior Smiley ) built the same week 9A, has the four clip. I will contact the owners of the Oct built Z's and see if they can provide pics. Hope this helps.....

Steve
47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 29, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
You can get that from GM, I ordered it for my 81 Z28 a couple of years ago. My understanding is that the records are only available from around 1977and newer for chevrolet. I pasted the link to the site below.


http://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/GM_Vehicle_Invoices,_Build_Records_and_Vintage_Vehicle_Information_Availability


48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 28, 2014, 11:56:37 AM
Mark, there is a difference in the clip configuration and change over between 14 inch and 15 inch trim rings. That thread was referencing 14 inch yj trim rings. Just an FYI...
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 69 Z/28 chrome shifter ball? on: January 26, 2014, 11:16:32 PM
And its not the first time  Wink
50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 69 Z/28 chrome shifter ball? on: January 26, 2014, 09:33:19 PM
The originals are 4oz.
51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 05:08:34 PM


My understanding NCRS will be providing the service as they do for the Corvette. GM & NCRS have some type of agreement and GM provided the access to the records.

Is this a service GM themselves would also provide (for a fee no doubt)? Is NCRS just one more source acting as an outlet?

Mike
52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
The source I'm getting my imformation is very knowledgeable and I had him restate the information that was to be provided. I believe these GM records are from a different dept/source from where the corvette records were obtained. This is my understanding but we will see. BTW I sent you a PM.  



68 Rag:

 I was given the info from an NCRS member who is involved with the program. BTW the wholesale invoice # and body # may be one in the same.  

He may be misinformed. Can he provide you with an example Corvette document that shows more information than this?


53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 12:50:04 PM


68 Rag:

 I was given the info from an NCRS member who is involved with the program. BTW the wholesale invoice # and body # may be one in the same. 

My understanding is that the documentation being released will not identify options, but will provide dealer with zone# , wholesale invoice # and body #. Perhaps more information will be available or found in the future but that is what I've been told will be provided on the April launch date.

Is your source an insider at GM or just a guy who heard from a guy who read it on the internet?

I ask because that is different information than what is stated in the OP and in the link provided to the service. It says nothing about wholesale invoice # and body #.




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Shipping Data Report Service: The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer address and the date the car was produced.
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54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 21, 2014, 10:33:30 PM
My understanding is that the documentation being released will not identify options, but will provide dealer with zone# , wholesale invoice # and body #. Perhaps more information will be available or found in the future but that is what I've been told will be provided on the April launch date. This is great news and will provide many owners a trail to the dealer and previous owners and with some luck a pot of gold (documentation).
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Factory records on: January 19, 2014, 11:09:02 PM
If it's accurate it appears to be data from an NICB report shipping /assembly record.
56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Undercoating on inside of quarter panel ??? on: January 10, 2014, 12:54:20 PM
Here's the original undercoating on the inside of the rear quarters in the trunk of my 02D '69 Z/28 - pretty sloppy, doesn't appear that any kind of mask or pattern was used. None of it has flaked or shows any sign of failure under the spatter paint after 45 years.

Hi John, I see your car has a trunk mat. Is your car equipped with deluxe interior or did someone add that. BTW your trunk and spatter paint are very well preserved.
57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Undercoating on inside of quarter panel ??? on: January 10, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
Based on what I've seen I believe there was a template or mask used. The coverage area certainly varies but the pressure used, nozzle and distance away contribute to the variations in coverage.
58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 1969 z28 on: January 03, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Like that console mounted 8 track player Steve.

Your car looks great on the forum page Brian. Have you dug out from the snow storm? When you're out here we need to get together. Stay warm Smiley 
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 1969 z28 on: January 03, 2014, 03:26:37 PM
Here's another shot from different angle.
60  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 1969 z28 on: January 03, 2014, 03:22:24 PM
Wood on the wheel and on the dash...
Any idea what the tilt column release lever is from? Looks like Pontiac but the plastic is fluted. I thought Pontiac had smooth plastic.  

The turn signal and tilt have the same knob. That goes for standard interior and deluxe. The example below has deluxe interior. The tilt lever is easily replaced...
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