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376  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY 69 IT IS A WEARD ONE! on: February 20, 2008, 10:39:16 PM
Factory M22s were only installed in HP models such as L78, L89, L72 and Z28. 


Kurt, Jerry, anyone....opinions on this ?
My 69 X66 05A car has  the born/w factory M22 vin# stammped trans.
There are no doc's on the car. So would it be safe to say there should be no dispute to my car being a factory built L78 ?
            Thanks Mike
Yes, based on it in fact being original to the car.
377  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 power steering issue on: February 16, 2008, 01:47:40 PM
All 1969 camaros equipped with PS had variable ratio steering boxes. The turn to turn is 2.25, for SS and Z28 which was accomplished with longer pitman arm as stated above.
378  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: molded hood pads on: February 14, 2008, 01:10:43 PM
I believe the hood insulation was available only as part of RPO Z87, Custom Interior Package.

Check out the following:

I thought it was standard on the ZL2 (cowl hood) as well.
379  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 camaro hood insulation question on: February 04, 2008, 12:47:07 AM
The reproduction molded pad (REM) has some issues, but is far better than the alternative. All the manufacturer needs to do is make a few minor modifications and it would be much better. In the mean time I trim a little here and there and get it to fit. Regarding the clips, I simply use a file on each clip and increase the locking lip. I was tired of finding them on the garage floor and a little filing did the trick. I also place a thin plastic on the core support braces because they get scratched from the abrasive insulation as well.
380  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 core support on: January 21, 2008, 01:46:35 PM
There is a slight difference (extra holes) on early cars and later cars.
381  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z Question on: January 16, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
I really appreciate this forum.  I learn something new everytime, and then sometimes it adds to the confusion.  Therefore, at this time there is no evidence to support that a Dover white 69 Z28 should have blacked out rocker panels?Huh

Your question was answered above. Cars with Z21 or Z22 option would have the body sills blacked out. Your Z28 is coded X33 therefore it would definitely have the Z21 (style Trim) and if it is a rallysport would also have Z22. So your car would have blacked out sills.
382  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Vintage Camaro Certification @ Camaro Nationals on: January 16, 2008, 12:43:22 PM
Vintage Camaro Cerification is a judging program whose sole purpose is to recognize, provide status and promote unrestored Camaros. We believe it is the only program that focuses on and documents unrestored Camaros. It is truly amazing the jewels of information that can be learned from these benchmark cars and the provenance your car earns through our program. Certifications are held annually at the Camaro Nationals @ Carlisle sponsored by American Camaro Association and held in conjunction with the All GM Nationals. We offer four levels of certification, based on the originality of the Camaro. Over the last eight years we were fortunate enough to certify several outstanding cars, a 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Conversion (Steve Sandlin), 19K mile 69 Yenko(Don Stowers), 14K mile 69 RS/SS L78(Jeff Boone), 9k mile 70.5 RS/Z28(Ben Arena) and a 12Kmile RS/SS L48(Rick George), Original owner 18K mile 67 RS/SS L35 and a host of other amazingly original and unrestored cars. This coming year we still have space available. We presently certify 1967 to 1973 Camaros. If you are interested and think your car qualifies, or want to know more about our program email me at and I will send you our Rules and Guidelines packet or call 631-514-9765... Click on the attachment to find out more details. If you are into Camaros this is the show, June 20, 21 & 22.

Steve Shauger
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383  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Bright Quarter Panel Moldings on: January 14, 2008, 07:13:43 PM
Did all SS 396's in 1969 come with the bright quarter panel moldings ? The data on X codes at CRG seems to indicate so.  Thanks.

All 396's came with the quarter gills (X66&X22), however X22 received the fender and quarter molding as well as other bright work.
384  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 SS stripes on: January 04, 2008, 10:14:55 AM
Just to clarify the wheel opening pin striping which was part of the Z21 (style trim) was not available on the Z28 or SS. The only exception being the pace car.
385  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 AM/FM and rear antenna on: January 03, 2008, 11:46:34 AM
Thanks for the info.  Here is a link to a picture of a 67 AM/FM on Ebay which confirms what you are saying about how to identify.

I am not looking to buy a radio, but I have a 67 with an AM/FM with rear antenna.  I am trying to figure out if the AM/FM was added at a later date.

Well as been stated, the rear antenna is an AM radio only option, so either the am/fm was added or the rear antenna. A little detective is all it takes.
386  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 AM/FM and rear antenna on: January 03, 2008, 11:17:00 AM
Just want to correct my above post. 1967 am/fm were part# 986824 and 68 were 7303241. If the tags are missing the easiest way to tell is 1967 radios have no am/fm on the lens near the switch and 1968 does have am/fm on the lens by the slide switch.
387  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 AM/FM and rear antenna on: January 03, 2008, 10:48:29 AM
I believe on a 67 there are dashes between the numbers. For instance on FM dial 102 -104 - 106 and 68 just had  102  104  106. Its been a while since i investigated this but there are differences between the dial script. Hopefully someone can confirm....
388  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Gear reduction unit on: January 01, 2008, 02:03:03 PM
And I think that with an 9 tooth drive gear, the car doesn't neet the adapter at all (like John's car).

That would be my guess as well. I don't have any data on 9 tooth drive gears utilizing a reducer. Each transmissions has a part# tag that designated its build configuration. If 9 tooth drive gear transmissions did not need adapter/reducer in high numerical gear applications then why wouldn't they install transmissions configured as such based on the part# tag. Assuming that the pn tag/brass tag in fact provided a configuration/BOM for the trans.
389  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Yellow marking on smog pump on: January 01, 2008, 01:16:04 PM
I have looked at many cars both big block and small block built first week of production of 69 and none have had the relief valve.
390  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Gear reduction unit on: January 01, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
I believe 22 tooth Driven Gear will work with that adapter.
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