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346  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Speedometer on: July 09, 2009, 07:46:40 AM
COPO# 9737 (sports car conversion) in 1968 and 1969 included a 140 spedometer and a few other goodies. In 1968 Yenko ordered cars under this # and then converted most from 396's to 427's.  In 1969 he ordered what is referred to double copo's 9737 and 9561 which included the L72 427. William published a nice report on the copo process which is under the reports section of this site. Other dealers ordered double copo's as well in 69.
347  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in on: June 30, 2009, 01:24:37 PM
We (Vintage) certified three 69's with standard wheels at the GM Nationals this past weekend. All three has pebble-grained wheels, none were Z23 optioned:

Built 9D of 69
X66, 711

Built 4C
X77, 711

Built 10A of 69
 X33, 721

Steve
348  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 302 small block fire order on: January 03, 2009, 07:10:36 PM
Yes the firing order is the same as all small blocks 18436572
349  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: PTB on Los Angeles Camaros on: December 18, 2008, 08:36:07 AM
So when were the P T and B marks put on?  and why?  they must have been applied at different times by different people?  after QA inspection of those areas?  or ?    and why would the cars be marked on both sides of the firewall?   

There were two inspectors (one on each side car) applying the stamps as it finished that operation in the assembly process. There are paint daubs through out the car that represent inspection and or confirmation that a component is torqued or installation complete.  
350  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct Drive Shaft for a COPO on: December 05, 2008, 11:10:57 PM
I have never seen shafts that were not phased .If they are out of phase they would vibrate like hell .Is it possible the shaft you looked at was twisted ?


Virtually all the hipo cars copo, ss and z28 driveshafts I have inspected are offset, as William stated, with no vibration detected. It was thought it may have been to prevent vibration harmonic, but no difinitive answer as to why. No the shafts are not twisted due to torque....
351  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 TI Ignition wiring diagram on: November 26, 2008, 03:55:36 PM
I had a JL8 Z28 that the orig owner installed GM TI setup and the tach worked just fine. I am not sure what if any modifications were needed for it to operate, but I did not see any additional wiring or modifications.
352  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Gratitude on: November 04, 2008, 02:44:42 PM
A great guy who is very deserving of induction into National Corvette Museum Hall of Fame, and is always willing to answer questions and help fellow hobbyist...

Thanks John
353  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: A.I.R. on 350/300 w/ auto trans on: October 04, 2008, 08:48:58 PM
Hi Billy, I will be at Hershey and will be judging, just not sure what assigned class. This is a general event, you will see car 1800 to 1983. I enjoy judging at the Camaro Nationals and AACA Hershey, they are both great events. I will be there Fri & Sat, give me a call on my cell 631-514-9765, I would be happy to look your car over.
Steve Shauger
354  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original #s matching SS muncie 3 speed on: July 21, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
That was the standard transmission on the L48 SS. Rare perhaps, desirable ...that a stretch.
355  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Low fuel light application on: July 05, 2008, 02:32:42 PM
Just a heads up, do not install a bulb in the low fuel module as referenced in that ebay picture. Although it looks like a bulb socket no bulb should be installed. Also that module snaps into a hole on the gauge pod.
356  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 COPO Camaro Muncie Transmissions on: June 23, 2008, 06:49:34 PM
All 1969 Yenko's 4spd cars were M21's. I believe a few COPO's came with M20's and of course M22's.
357  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 AM/FM radio option on: June 09, 2008, 04:15:09 PM
Another question.  U79 A1 Multiplex states receiver asm,... install the same as U63.  Is the same AM/FM radio reciever used for both U79 and U63.  If so,for U63, the radio face says stereo even though the system is mono.  Would that be correct or were two different recievers used?

U63 = AM
U69 AM/FM mono
U79 AM/FM stereo
358  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Paint on floor pans on: May 17, 2008, 11:01:39 AM
I have a Norwood 69 Z Olympic Gold RS car that is at the painter now, and I need to confirm or get your comments on the following:

Background info:

1. Currently, there is surface rust on the underside of the car, but I can see gray primer in various areas that had oil etc.  had leaked on the underside of the car.
2. I understand that some cars came from the factory with gray primer as my car has on the underside and others were painted black. I see many cars that have been restored painted black on the underside, but not many with the gray primer.

Questions:

Is it correct for the underside to have the gray primer then the body color overspray then the black overspray due to the RS option?
A few months back there was a Lemans Blue RS Z car that was a high point car that had a gray primer underside with the overspray as I have explained. If anyone remembers that car and discussion was that car done right?

Thanks

As has been stated there were large variations between cars and also plants. The Vintage Judging program certifies unrestored cars. We are are in the Y building as well at the Camaro Nationals @Carlisle. Participating this year we have five unrestored, which provide a wealth of information on what techniques and finishes were used by the factory.  You are welcome to stop by and view these cars and ask any questions you may have.

This is the event to participate or spectate in if you want to see some example of the finest camaros.
359  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Nationals '08 on: April 28, 2008, 08:27:54 AM
I just saw an advertisement in The Auto Locator for the Camaro Nat'ls in June. It has no referance as to where they are held!? I know where, just wondering why the ad doesn't say it. Anyone??  Huh

The 10th Annual Camaro Nationals are held within the GM Nationals at Carlisle 6/20-22 . Click on the link http://www.americancamaro.org/nationals.php
I completely understand where the event is held. What I don't understand is there is NO referancee to where in the ad.

Click on the link provided and email info to Karl or Bud regarding the missing info. BTW Bud frequents this site his screen name is buds396 or something like that.
360  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Nationals '08 on: April 27, 2008, 07:56:06 PM
I just saw an advertisement in The Auto Locator for the Camaro Nat'ls in June. It has no referance as to where they are held!? I know where, just wondering why the ad doesn't say it. Anyone??  Huh

The 10th Annual Camaro Nationals are held within the GM Nationals at Carlisle 6/20-22 . Click on the link http://www.americancamaro.org/nationals.php
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