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16  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am Series Videos Penske Racing on: February 05, 2014, 11:02:46 PM
I just added five 1970 Trans Am races.
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How big of a tire will fit on the front of a 69 on: February 05, 2014, 10:31:19 PM
I had rubbing issue on my Yenko and Orange Z and I found the solution was to put 215-65-15. The 70 series rubbed just enough to annoy me Smiley
18  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 04, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
Here are some more pictures of the 1968 Camaro RS convertible that paced the Trans Am race at Mid Ohio Sports Car Course in Lexington, Ohio on June 11, 1967. They were taken from a program produced by Sunoco in 1969 that chronicled the previous years Trans Am championship and the 1969 Daytona 24 hour race. I paused the film and took the shots with my digital camera.

Steve Shauger posted the footage on Youtube and let us know about them in his thread on this web site entitled, "1968 Trans Am Series Videos Penske Racing."

See the Mid Ohio segment here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuP24D1JB8    The Camaro pace car can be seen between 0:46 and 0:50 on the pace lap.

See more pictures of the Camaro in Reply #71 on page five and Reply #180 on page thirteen of this thread.

I have a lot of 1970 Trans Am series footage. I will review and post any pace car footage as well so check back at that link for updates.
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z on ebay - twin on: February 02, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
These orange black stripe RS/Z's are coming out of the woodwork. The tag is suspect to me though....
20  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am Series Videos Penske Racing on: February 01, 2014, 11:55:18 PM
Hi Gary, as I mentioned to you, in 1969 while riding my bicycle on Bishop Hollow Rd (Newtown Sq.) I saw an orange with black stripe Z28 power sliding into the Sun Oil R& D facility. At the time I didn't know it was Mark, but Bill Scott confirmed to me years later that it was Donohue most likely picking up parts. When Mark passed away in Aug of 1975 it was a very devastating time, and I set a goal to find a 69 Z28 identical to the one I remember Mark driving.  It took a year (1976) but my first muscle car was a 69 Z28 hugger orange with black stripes. Fast forward to 2010 and there it was, more confirmation in this book.
21  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / 1968 Trans Am Series Videos Penske Racing on: February 01, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Hi Jon, I know for probably 10 plus years I've stated that I would post some Penske Trans Am footage. Well Tonight I made my first attempt. A little background first; I was fortunate enough to grow up in Newtown Sq. Pa. which was the location of the Penske race shop (they had two locations) from 1965ish to 1971. Anyway I became friends with a Penske Team member Bill Scott (Scotty). Scotty He was involved with the team from the very beginning and in fact was the chief mechanic on the Grand Sport Corvette and worked for Sun Oil at their R&D location. Bill was a mentor to me and helped me understand building engines and guided me through building my first stroked LT1(Traco did the machining). That was many years ago and he has since passed. He gave me this video and this is the first time I made it available. I will add more races and provide a DVD to Jon Mello since he has tirelessly contributed so much to the site, and kept the Trans Am Series alive. Thanks Jon....

Here's a link to the videos....

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrSshauger
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
Gary, I have a real collection of GM Master Parts Catalogues, Camaro, Corvette,Nova,Chevelle,Vega,Firebird etc.,  The girl friend worked at a Local GM Dealer, she holds a licensed Journey man parts certificate, and still retains the Grp. part numbers/sections by memory. I got a lot of these when GM went computerized. The Camaro parts catalogue is 741A dated August/1974. I also have 751A, dated Sept/1975, 761A dated Jan/1978 and others I acquired when I ran a Corvette/Camaro Restoration shop for 20 yrs.
 In Grp. # 5.871 of the Camaro 741A it shows # 3901708, the 751A shows # 9796696 as do the others. I also scanned the Chevelle Part page. Interesting to note it shows for 70-73 Monte Carlo # 9796696 as having 4 clips. 


Good information, thanks. It would be interesting if they noted the  part# change for the 14" trim rings since we know the chevelle used the 4 clip in 1969 and changed to the inner serrated in 1970.
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 30, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Determining if trim rings were original to a car is difficult as many fell off damaged or discarded. My belief is that the serrated internal type were used on late production cars ( 69 carry over-70 production) . I've certified two absolutely unrestored Oct built Z28's (both achieved Legend Certification) that had the internal serrated /fingers type trim rings. I specifically looked for the four clip markings on the lips and did not find any. I suspect that the internal serrated/ finger attached trim ring were phased in during the 1970 model production (Camaros built Sept-Nov of 69). Another example for instance were 69 SS Chevelles which used the 4 clip trim rings exclusively, but from what I've seen all 70 Chevelles have had the serrated /finger trim rings. I confirmed this with Chris White who is a Vintage Certification team member, and a well known Chevelle authority.

Last I've attached a picture of my 9A built Z spare(I orig purchased in 1976). The original rim is dated 5/19 along with orig sports car 200, and original factory applied paint. You will note that the spare was used for a very short time and a trim ring was installed which based on the markings was the internal serrated type. I looked for clip markings on the outer lip and none were found. However Gary's car (69Z28-RS with the ugly orange interior Smiley ) built the same week 9A, has the four clip. I will contact the owners of the Oct built Z's and see if they can provide pics. Hope this helps.....

Steve
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 29, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
You can get that from GM, I ordered it for my 81 Z28 a couple of years ago. My understanding is that the records are only available from around 1977and newer for chevrolet. I pasted the link to the site below.


http://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/GM_Vehicle_Invoices,_Build_Records_and_Vintage_Vehicle_Information_Availability


25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 28, 2014, 11:56:37 AM
Mark, there is a difference in the clip configuration and change over between 14 inch and 15 inch trim rings. That thread was referencing 14 inch yj trim rings. Just an FYI...
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 69 Z/28 chrome shifter ball? on: January 26, 2014, 11:16:32 PM
And its not the first time  Wink
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 69 Z/28 chrome shifter ball? on: January 26, 2014, 09:33:19 PM
The originals are 4oz.
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 05:08:34 PM


My understanding NCRS will be providing the service as they do for the Corvette. GM & NCRS have some type of agreement and GM provided the access to the records.

Is this a service GM themselves would also provide (for a fee no doubt)? Is NCRS just one more source acting as an outlet?

Mike
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
The source I'm getting my imformation is very knowledgeable and I had him restate the information that was to be provided. I believe these GM records are from a different dept/source from where the corvette records were obtained. This is my understanding but we will see. BTW I sent you a PM.  



68 Rag:

 I was given the info from an NCRS member who is involved with the program. BTW the wholesale invoice # and body # may be one in the same.  

He may be misinformed. Can he provide you with an example Corvette document that shows more information than this?


30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 22, 2014, 12:50:04 PM


68 Rag:

 I was given the info from an NCRS member who is involved with the program. BTW the wholesale invoice # and body # may be one in the same. 

My understanding is that the documentation being released will not identify options, but will provide dealer with zone# , wholesale invoice # and body #. Perhaps more information will be available or found in the future but that is what I've been told will be provided on the April launch date.

Is your source an insider at GM or just a guy who heard from a guy who read it on the internet?

I ask because that is different information than what is stated in the OP and in the link provided to the service. It says nothing about wholesale invoice # and body #.




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