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481  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 06, 2006, 07:31:40 PM
Only problem Arno is that I ordered wheel covers (P01) and have Argent Silver on my car.  In my case I didn't order anything "post delivery" from the dealer so I don't think that explains it.
482  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 06, 2006, 05:29:17 PM
Ok, let me see if I have this right.  A SS car that was not ordered with P01 came to the dealership with dog dish caps.  A SS ordered with P01 had the SS wheel covers put on at the factory.  The SS that was not ordered with P01 and came with dog dish had the dog dish taken off and replaced with SS wheel covers at the dealership (from their stock) because it was a SS.  Is all that correct?
483  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 05, 2006, 06:11:45 PM
Guys

Just to make sure, we are talking about the same photo (black & white)....top of page 170 in the 1998 "The Conclusive Camaro Recognition Guide" ....right?  Rich, you are right, I do question what I'm seeing in the photo but I don't want to get hung up on that picture so I'm going to just say (and then I'm done with this photo forever now that I'm cross-eyed from looking at it so long Smiley) that the one I'm looking at, given the possibilities of differences (quality) in printing and whatever, just doesn't look black to me in that inner ring but I'm old and I'm probably wrong  Sad.  Arno, my car is British Green with white stripes, black vinyl hard top, with SS blackout paint trim.  Questions: John Z, who made the covers for GM and where did they come from (mfg plant locations)?  Rich do you see any indication in the part books that there may have been a cover that was "set aside" for a SS ordered vehicle?  By that I mean, if I ordered a SS with regular dog dish caps would it have come with SS covers because I ordered the SS....is there anything that would lend itself to conclude that from the books?  One more question for you Rich, how many original SS owners do we have in the CRG data base?  Am I the only original owner that kept his original SS covers on his Baby all these years Huh (Please treat that as a rhetorical Q if you like Rich  Wink)

Steve
484  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 05, 2006, 10:14:28 AM
Thanks for the clarification.  With regard to the shadows...I was referring to the picture in Hooper's book and not the dealer book.
485  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 04, 2006, 08:51:06 PM
Rich

What dealer book are you refering to?  Publication year?  I've looked at the photo in Hooper's book too and I think shadows are in play.  If you look real close you can see that the "black" of the center area around the SS is black and when you compare it to the inner ring area it is, at a minimum, several shades lighter.  Looking closer, light is reflecting off the rib and shinning on the inner ring area and it looks more gray (silver) than black in my picture.  The outer ring in my photo looks even lighter than the inner ring.  With all respect, I will put my original covers up against Hooper's photo any day, if you know what I mean Smiley  Wink  I have started to look back through some of my original paperwork to see what, if anything, I can find that might help on this.  So far the only thing I see on the original order form is "wheel covers" and the price.  Will keep looking.

Steve
486  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: February 04, 2006, 05:01:37 PM
Arno

Now that WOULD be a mystery in my case.  That would mean that 4 NEW Argent Silver 1964 Impala SS covers were put on my spanking new 1968 Camaro right there at the dealership. Additionally, and as I relayed to you in an earlier post, the ones I saw on the showroom Camaro, that was almost identical to mine and that had the same covers as mine, would have had to have been switched too!!  Smiley Shocked  Where would they get new 64 covers to start with and why would they do that?  He may not be 100% sure but I have tell you that I am 100% sure that since the argent came on my car it's going to take some powerful proof to convince me that they are not correct and that somehow, someway, my new car had new 4 year old Impala covers put on it.  Smiley

Steve
487  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Identify 12 bolt on: January 29, 2006, 01:49:29 PM
With all respect, some CRG members may not frequent the other board and would learn from the post here. Smiley
488  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: January 29, 2006, 12:17:37 PM
Arno

I don't think we can go by the 1983 covers for verification as there is enough difference between the 1965 Chevy II 3871174 and the 1968-69 Camaro 3871174 pictures in the parts book alone.  To use covers 14-15 years later than what we are interested (68) in would be way out there IMO.  I am afraid any stamp is long gone from my covers but will pull the other 3 to look anyway.  You do realize my car is a SS/RS.......right? Smiley

Steve
489  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: January 28, 2006, 10:24:02 PM
Can't find any numbers on a quick look at the back side.  Does anyone have any idea if there are numbers on wheel covers to start with and if so where?
490  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: January 28, 2006, 11:37:09 AM
Keeping what John said in mind, if you look in the parts book you will notice that the covers change appearance but have the same part number for different years.  For instance, the 1965 Chevy II cover has the same number as the 68-69 Camaro cover.  We stated the thread with 68 covers being the topic and that is what is on my car.  I can't really speak to what other years may look like with any certainty though beyond what is in the parts book and it is really hard to tell what one is looking at (again keeping in mind what John has said).  By that I mean, the page is white but given the shape and the voids in the cover and looking at it on the page I see black areas on the wheel cover.  I know for instance, from real world observation that an area is "open" on a particular cover but it "appears" in the picture as black. Is it really black (painted) or is it the artist trying to show the opening.  Tell you what Arno.....I am going to go and pull one of the covers from my car and see if I can find any numbers.  Will let you know what I find if anything.
491  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: January 26, 2006, 08:56:39 PM
Arno

I picked my car up at the dealer and it has never been out of my hands since and it has had the #3 covers on it from day one.  The silver can't be incorrect as they did come on my new car........Why would dealers swap them anyway?  Something doesn't ring right there with Mr Ball if you think about it.  They are going to put them in the trunk or car at the plant and there is not going to be that much of a chance at the dealership (small & low volume in my case at the time) for a set of SS covers to be put on some other car.

Steve
492  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 fuel filter ss 396 on: January 26, 2006, 08:37:54 PM
Earl

Tinkerr may be correct.  The numbers I provided you however are from my 68 Chassis Service Manual for the Camaro and right from the Carb specifications section (Cool.  It is a table with engine displacement/hp and provides the make, model and part number for that combo (396/325).  There is a note provided for the 396/325 one I picked for you that says it is for "Camaro only".  Maybe someone with original equipment will provide you with the info you need.  Sorry I can't be of more definite help than this Embarrassed

Steve
493  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1968 ss rs 396 325 hp fan on: January 25, 2006, 08:35:57 PM
Earl

Go to the CRG Reports button in the upper left corner and click on it.  Then click on the "cooling systems" report and go to the bottom of the page and you will find a picture of the 4 blade fan.

Steve
494  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 SS Hubcaps on: January 25, 2006, 08:28:41 PM
Arno

It doesn't, unfortunately, look like your going to get much more on this.  John has pretty much put the brochure thing to rest.  All I can tell you is that being the original owner of a 68 SS that came with, and still on it, the wheel covers (we have been calling them hub caps but....) are as you described in your #3: only single inner ring painted argent silver.  Besides, how much better it can get than an original owner with original equipment providing you with info Smiley ..... no relying on memory or what a previous owner says was on the car when they bought it.  If your still in doubt for some reason and you can think of something that I can look at on the covers or whatever then let me know and I'll have a try at it for you.

Steve
495  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 fuel filter ss 396 on: January 25, 2006, 07:41:28 PM
Rochester 4MV Carb with Part numbers: Auto ='s 7028218 and Man Trans ='s 7028217.  Also, hopefully not to confuse you but to inform only, I believe that VERY early in the 68 production year some 325 hp cars COULD have received 7016817 with automatic trans equiped vehicles.
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