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436  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 03, 2006, 11:45:13 AM
Thanks Ed.  Your comment is very appropriate.  The type of comments I really don't want are "why did you ask that?", and "what does that have to do with anything" kind.  Survey now, answer questions and why this and that later Smiley.  Made modification to survey question #5.

Steve
437  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 03, 2006, 09:54:55 AM
Ok.  Lets give it a try and see what kind of response we get anyway.  The built-in polling software only allows you to ask one question and there are several to this survey.  So I have asked all the questions here and you will need to respond with a post.  When you respond to each question give your answer as 1C, 2B, 3B, etc., whatever your case may be.  Thanks!

For 68 RS owners that have vehicles that were manufactured by GM as RS cars.

1.  Does your car currently have an original center grille?
     A. I am positive.
     B. Almost certain it does
     C. Not sure but it appears to be
     D. No
2.  Is it a:
     A. non GM grille
     B. GM RS grille
3.  The center grille currently is:
     A. Black with horizontal chrome stripes
     B. Black
     C. Other
4.  My center grille was replaced in:
     A. 1968
     B. 1969
     C. 1970
     D. 1971
     E. 1972
     F. After 1972
     G. Not sure
     H. Never (Stop survey)
5.  The replacement center grille came from:
     A. GM dealership parts department
     B. NPD, Year One, Ricks, Classic Ind, etc.
     C. Other (Delineate where it came from if you know)
6.  The replacement part number was GM 3919060
     A. Yes
     B. No
     C. Don't know

Please, no editorial comments on the questions right now.  They are asked as is for a reason.  If you don't understand the question then it's ok to ask for clarification of course.  Thanks for your participation in advance!! Smiley  (Just hope there is some Grin)

Steve
438  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1111480 distributor on: September 03, 2006, 09:28:41 AM
The info I have shows the part was removed from service in May of 1970, so I wouldn't think after that.  Hope that helps. Smiley

Steve
439  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Finding the Correct Underhood Lamp on: September 02, 2006, 08:57:01 PM
Part number 987028 was used for ALL ( Corvair, Chevy, Chevelle, Camaro) in 1967.  It was removed from service in January 1968.

Steve
440  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 02, 2006, 08:19:11 PM
Sent email to Rich asking for some help.
441  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 02, 2006, 05:28:55 PM
Ed

It would be related to the grille discussion we have been having.  I actually have the survey prepared but if we don't have a significant number of folks that could participate then I didn't see any point in the exercise.  Wonder why I'm not getting any response to my request from CRG guys with access to database?

Steve
442  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Small Block decode...what is it? on: September 01, 2006, 06:35:13 PM
Was waiting on the numbers to help confirm what I believe it to be.
443  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Small Block decode...what is it? on: August 30, 2006, 07:38:43 PM
Kevin

You have a falling out with your friend? Cheesy  Just kidding.  Would still like to see those numbers if you are up to it. Smiley

Steve
444  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 28, 2006, 07:21:08 PM
Daniel Any CRG member with access to database

How many 68 SS/RS 396 vehicles do we have in the database?  Of those listed, are their owners, for the most part(if the info is known), current members of the Forum?  Depending on the results I may do a survey .......Thanks!

Steve
445  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 26, 2006, 02:19:48 PM
So would you get a chrome 68 HL cover (per your seconded paragraph) if you were replacing your 67 HL cover?  If so then you would get a chrome one to go with your black center RS 67 grille Huh  Right? Huh
446  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 26, 2006, 08:43:23 AM
Ed

I wonder why they were so quick to replace the chrome center but yet let the 67 black HL covers (3898135 & 6) be "converted" over to the 68 covers (3919063 & 4....chrome pieces) in 11/68 and 10/68 respectively?  I must be missing something cause it doesn't fit for me.  Also, would they not have realized 68 owners/shops would have wanted (needed) chrome center replacement centers?

Steve
447  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 25, 2006, 07:06:25 PM
Ed

Just to make sure I stated my last thread correctly here is the link to what Rich said.  http://www.camaros.org/cgi-bin/webbbs4.33/cuscrg/cuscrg.pl?read=12908

It seems odd to me too.  It just so happens that I bought a new 3919060 from a Chev dealer (parts dept) in Northern VA on 1/25/72....it was black.  Does the '71, '76, and '80 info you have indicate that the grille is chrome?

Steve
448  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 24, 2006, 06:59:17 PM
Ed

I'd vote for typo.  That seems very odd, to say the least, on the Canadian vs US 69 numbers for the HL covers.  I originally asked the center grill question due partly to a post in the old form on the subject.  It was regarding SS/RS black vs. chrome (horizontal) grilles on 68's.  Rich answered the question but did not supply any dates.  It looks like the 060 grille was the "part" for both the 67 & 68 by September of 68 and by what Rich provided it appears it was available in "black" only.  The HL covers though were still apparently (as per your P&A for the LH anyway) available in chrome as my info has the 68 LH HL cover not being substituted for the 67 part until November 68 and the 68 RH HL cover not being substitued for the 67 part until October 68 (even though your P&A shows it to be used effective 9/68...but that is perhaps to be expected given it was being "substituted" in).  I was trying to nail down the exact date when the center chrome grille part was no longer available.  At this point it looks like it must have been available through the 68 production run and then a decision to, as the old post states, go with one part for the two years.  I wonder if there is some documentation (ESL or something) somewhere on the center grille "black" only decision?

Steve

Edit:  Ed, I pulled another source I have and I think I have an answer (sort of  Smiley ) for the Canadian vs US issue.  The Canadian #'s were substituted in November of 68 with the US #'s.  So, it would seem the Canadian publication was just behind.  But that begs the question, did GM/Chevy originally plan on using the 3958003 and 3958004 part for 69 originally?  Steve
449  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Camaro won't start on: August 23, 2006, 09:36:37 PM
Could be the solenoid then.  Remove starter and take it to Advance Auto or Auto Zone and have them test it.  They will be able to ID solenoid/starter problem for you.

Steve
450  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: August 23, 2006, 09:32:55 PM
Ed

Grin Thats funny!  It's also interesting as the right side was not substituted until 10/68 so they must have been anticipating the change over in the P&A 9/68 printing since it was so close.  Either that or you have discovered that the engineers were going to use the 68 headlight cover on the 69 model year Wink but.......

Steve
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