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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 18, 2014, 06:09:07 AM
Thanks Chick... good to hear from you! How's your car coming along - I haven't seen much about it for quite a while now on TC. I'd be anxious to see more about it certainly..
Thanks for the offer - I did send some old pictures I had of it to Darrell who was going to try and post some of it for those who have stated that the info isn't much good without pictures  Cheesy
Randy
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / What's it Worth..? on: June 16, 2014, 11:40:29 PM
Got a few guys bugging me about selling my '68 Z 2/8 and I honestly don't really have any clue what I would throw out for a price if one of them actually gets serious, but since I've come somewhat reluctantly to the realization that it sits stored 10 months of the year and I seem to get less and less time each passing year to enjoying driving and playing with it, I am entertaining the idea of my life minus it for the first time in 23 years..

Details..
Its a real Z'ed with GM Canada Vintage Service documentation - 64,000 original miles - no other paperwork unfortunately.
Repainted in 1980 - BC/CC red with black stripes and still reasonable - but originally PP (Seafrost Green) w/ black stripes.
Original S. Ontario dealer-sold car and I have traced back all of the previous 8 owners except the first who was rumoured to be an NHL player who played in the US and traded the car back into the original dealer after 1 hockey season.
Original (born with) engine and M21 trans. Rear appears to have replaced with an almost perfect date code 12 bolt - but axle tube stamp indicates it should be out of a '68 Nova?..  2nd owner who was both 2nd and 4th! told me he raced the car so maybe the rear let go at some point by 1972 1973?
Body is very nice and straight with only rear quarters being replaced (G M OEM full panels apparently by the 6th owner in 1980 when repainted red) due to anal tendencies for some apparently very minor wheelwell corrosion.
Very few options - standard black interior in very nice condition with only carpets and dash pad (old one I still have) not 'born with'.
OEM radio gone and 2 aftermarket rear speakers are only mods internally.
I have a cowl hood on it but still have original flat hood.
The hidden VIN stamps are there and match.
Presently the 302 shortblock sits on a stand in my basement for lack of affordable gas and in it's place is a 350 4 bolt with the original bits like heads intake etc. on it - the 302 was rebuilt with race quality bearings, Mains were studded and both they and rods have ARP fasteners and had all had clearances massaged to be perfect - it has .030 over TRW L2210AF pistons and the crank is polished and uncut. I don't have the original 4053 carb. 
Front and rear Spoilers were on the car from the 1980 repaint and are not original to the car.
The car was an early build model with most of the date coding in late Dec '67 and thus has some engine parts that are leftover '67 Z'ed bits like the 266 distributor.
Old pictures I saw and previous owners stated that it had the 302 front fender emblems and not the Z 2/8 ones now in place.
Underside of car is very solid but typical of a Canadian car has some crustiness and things like crossmember, controls arms, and rear, have some pitting as would be expected.
Everything like buzzers, wipers, lights etc. all work as new..
The only thing I haven't gotten around to - as it barely sees 200 miles a Summer at best - to shows and cruise nights - is the rear end is leaking somewhat at the pinion seal and it has a slight vibration telling me the pinion bearings and seal need replacement - but otherwise is very quiet.
Brakes are original including rotors, drums, master cylinder, and calipers (with seals and 'O' ring etc.) and all work amazing.
Front and rear bumpers could use new chrome but are somewhat passable - rest of SS and aluminum trim bits are in very good condition.
Glass is original with the exception of the Windshield which now is tinted.
Still has T3's, original marker light and rear lenses etc.

Lots more... and I could go on forever - but if a few of you who are market-savy would care to pass along some rough numbers to give me some starting point when and if I get up the courage when needed, it would be very much appreciated - Randy

PS - I know what the first response will be.. and I've never had any success posting pictures up here so I long ago gave up trying..

Thanks Again..   
     
 
 
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ron Pratte collection on: June 02, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
Is that the one with the 'RS' on the grille, the questionable history, the previous owner who surfaced and then disappeared amidst threats against him after commenting that the VIN attached to it came from a car he scrapped years prior, and that went for something like $129,000 a few years back?
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 08:42:17 PM
Don't see any broach marks and the area of the stamping looks like it has been played with (cleaned up) - in addition to the font of the actual VIN stamp looking pretty large relative to that of the engine assembly code stamp from what I see..
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 16, 2014, 08:33:17 PM
Whoever was driving this car wouldn't be for long if he continually slipped the clutch as badly as he did in the video!
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 06:24:23 PM
(quote).. "Neat!!! and fun too isn't it?  (except for the rare times when you get a hold of a grouchy person who hangs up on you)." (quote)..

Ha - Yea you're sure correct there...
I was calling any and all sources in the long line of contacts my Z had over the years, and was following up on a lead to the third owner who I had been given a possible number for.  Lady answers when I dialed and I gave her my quick 'trying to trace back owners of a '68 Z 2/8 I now own and she cuts me off saying in a promising way "we had a silver Camaro in 1970... what colour is the one you have?".. I was about to tell her that the car I now owned was red, but originally seafrost green (pp code) - but before I got to the silver/green part, she yelled into the phone at full volume "I hate red cars".. and slammed the phone down!
I took that as a hint not to bother for a return try for any more info and moved on..
Turns out the second owner, who I later managed to contact and have a nice conversation with, knew her well and commented "she's loonier than a sh*thouse rat - I'm surprised you got as far as you did with the conversation"..   
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Look what my wife brought home for me just now. on: May 12, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
Probably someone had a long load that hung out well past a closed tailgate (or on the flatbed type of Lowes truck you saw) and when they turned in the lot didn't expect that the long load would sweep a wider area behind, and whatever was protruding got wedged up against your truck in the process..
Had this happen at my camp when a next door neighbour had a delivery truck drop off some building materials at his home and the driver used my driveway to turn around in. Don't think he even knew what he did to my fencepost as it was out of the view from his side mirrors as he swung out and around the corner..
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 04, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
Not all that uncommon to have 'stamp bounce' from what I've seen, but it usually appears with all or at least the adjacent ones in the string being somewhat affected by or with the same issues.. in this case from what my poor eyes can decipher it appears that just the 'V' appears affected which is kind of strange as it was a gang stamp procedure from what I know.
My early Z has this also and all the digits display some 'echo' - but in my case it gets progressively less pronounced towards one end of the string..
Is a 44**** series stamping in line with a 05 month date? I thought that seems kind of low considering, but I will defer to more learned opinions?
Too bad the other casting numbers aren't shown or mentioned as well..
Considering all of the rust on the sheet metal in addition to any and all of mechanical bits as shown, even if the body is solid and those are actually 'born with' guts, it would require a substantial investment on top of the final selling price to bring it back certainly.
It's bad it wasn't stored better - it would have been a  real keeper!     
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1968 Z/28 Block - Trans - Rear Numbers... Original Stamps? on: April 19, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
I was just comparing the appearance and angle of the broaching marks that I have on my 302 block in addition to pictures that I have kept of other known good stampings, and all I can say is they don't appear to be at the 90 degree angle to the end of the block stamp pad area as the one I am referencing..
Whether that apparent angle is because of the perspective the picture was taken at or actually they are not square to the centre line of the bores isn't clear - but my impression was the broaching was done and therefore the marks created were always in-line with the bore centreline.. these appear in the posted pictures not to be!
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Anybody ever follow up a listing like this to see whether it is legit or not? on: April 16, 2014, 07:07:32 PM
from a noted Toronto Sun newspaper..

http://www.autosource.biz/Ad/1969_Camaro.htm

Randy
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Which crossflow/transverse muffler on BBC on: September 25, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
This very timely since I was just at a muffler shop today asking the owner I know well, what type of mufflers/system he thought from his experience would sound good on my car, which I plan to change soon.
I will be following this thread and poll very closely - great Thanks.. - Randy
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Astro Ventilation Window Markings on: September 02, 2013, 10:26:46 AM
GM Vintage Car Services in Oshawa Ontario (George Zapora) - can assist you with exactly the date of production, shipping, and all other details such as delivered options, through his database of Canadian imported and sold cars.
All you need to get the entire documentation package from them is your Visa # (I believe it is near or slightly over $100 now) and the VIN # and he or one of the staff there can help you out - sometimes immediately over the phone as he did when I inquired about my car, prior to buying it years back..
I don't presently have the 1-800 number for the department - but it should be available via a Google search or maybe someone else will post it on here for you if you have an interest..
Randy
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Front Brake Hoses.. on: August 08, 2013, 05:29:38 PM
Thanks John..
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Front Brake Hoses.. on: August 06, 2013, 10:20:03 PM
Getting to the point in the next night or two where I intend to bleed the brakes to try and tighten up the pedal and I thought I might as well try and flush the whole system with new fluid while I'm at it..
Couple of ??'s here prior to starting it:

What type of fluid would have been used in a '68 system from new..  DOT3 or 4? And if the answer to that is DOT3 is there any advantage or detriment to upgrading to DOT4 at this point?
How much fluid should it take to get most if not all of the present fluid replaced by bleeding each cylinder or caliper at a time until the old stuff is finally purged out?
Can DOT4 be used as the replacement fluid if DOT3 was normally the choice for a '68 system - and will it co-exist with any remnants of DOT3 that might still remain (I thought I read somewhere a couple of years back the DOT4 is backwardly or downwardly compatible - but DOT3 not forward or upwardly so) but not sure why..?
I don't have a vacuum bleeder and probably won't get one for the rare number of times hopefully this job will be necessary - but will just getting my 'helper' to pump and hold the pedal while I crack each subsequent bleeder screw, make for a very long drawn-out deal until most if not all of the old stuff is purged out?
And finally - I would assume that purging would be done in the same fashion IE: furthest wheel way from the master first, flowed by the second-most one, etc. etc.. 
Thanks - Randy
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Front Brake Hoses.. on: July 30, 2013, 10:37:03 PM
Thanks Ed - my first though (if nothing obvious poked out at me) was to try and bleed them - although in the nearly 15-20 years since I took the calipers apart and cleaned up the bores some and put new 'O' rings and seals everywhere, this is the first instance of problems they would have ever provided - IF they are in fact the problem.
I was always expecting at some point to have to have SS sleeves pressed in - but the rebuild back 'when worked so well I have actually never really given it a second thought until I just now realized how long it has actually been..
Thanks again..
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