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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 23, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Yep - the 350 4 bolt truck short block was finished off with the 'Born With' (I hate using that phrase by the way).. 302 oil pan with baffles, 302 windage tray, water pump, '266 distributor, '291 heads, '610 manifold, along with assorted other bits like alternator arms, bellhousing, clutch fan, fuel pump, flywheel, balancer, and starter..
Most people would never know except guys like you fellas here - but if ever anyone does ask I tell them it is a replacement engine for the one sitting rebuilt at home.
 
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 22, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
The car from the time the posted photos were taken, hasn't at all changed for the most part - except for the "Caution Fan' sticker removal  Grin - better '302' decal on the air cleaner and the feed line to the carb from the fuel pump being more a factory-style configuration and make up..
Oh - and it probably has 500 - 600 or so miles more on the odometer in those 5 or so years!
Randy 
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 22, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Bump..
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 21, 2014, 01:19:30 PM
I was originally looking for a '66 - '67 Nova to build up back in the mid '80's and ran across this car stored away in a garage covered in grease and oil to protect the trim and available at a decent price because the then owner was building a house and needed the $$..
Since I really wasn't interested in Camaros I almost passed on it, but it was basically a lot less work than any Nova I was getting looks at - so.....
As an interesting side note - I wasn't into 'numbers matching or born with' stuff at the time obviously (how many were back then?) - so my first order of business after I bought this thing was to get it running. It would keep a charge and after a few boosts and having the battery checked out, I realized the alternator wasn't working at all, so I did the logical thing ('80's) at the time I got a parts store replacement to get it one the road, ASAP!
It haunts me to this day, considering how much an original alternator would cost me now, that I probably turned an original one complete with deep pulley AS A CORE!
How's that for being honest about my own stupidity!! 
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 21, 2014, 12:53:15 PM
Those pictures were the last ones I took the time back in 2009 or so to do, if memory serves me correctly - when the "Caution Fan' back then was a common and sort of more acceptable 'add on'.. 
Rest assured it has been gone for the last 4 or 5 years now.. - HA  Grin

I really appreciate the compliments from all of you (and the gentle criticism as well ) - I know some things are not exactly how they should be but some were left overs from previous ownerships which I didn't mind enough to change, others I added to suit my own taste in cars and from what I grew up with in the sixties with somewhat... but the real intention of all of this wasn't to troll for compliments, but rather to gain solid feedback of a value from those who certainly should know best..
Thanks again - Randy
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 18, 2014, 06:27:33 PM
Thanks again Darrell for your trouble with this - I have tried numerous times to post pictures of many various things that came up during discussions with no luck getting the file sizes of my pictures small enough!

Guess now everyone can 'fire away'...

Randy
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it Worth..? on: June 18, 2014, 06:09:07 AM
Thanks Chick... good to hear from you! How's your car coming along - I haven't seen much about it for quite a while now on TC. I'd be anxious to see more about it certainly..
Thanks for the offer - I did send some old pictures I had of it to Darrell who was going to try and post some of it for those who have stated that the info isn't much good without pictures  Cheesy
Randy
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / What's it Worth..? on: June 16, 2014, 11:40:29 PM
Got a few guys bugging me about selling my '68 Z 2/8 and I honestly don't really have any clue what I would throw out for a price if one of them actually gets serious, but since I've come somewhat reluctantly to the realization that it sits stored 10 months of the year and I seem to get less and less time each passing year to enjoying driving and playing with it, I am entertaining the idea of my life minus it for the first time in 23 years..

Details..
Its a real Z'ed with GM Canada Vintage Service documentation - 64,000 original miles - no other paperwork unfortunately.
Repainted in 1980 - BC/CC red with black stripes and still reasonable - but originally PP (Seafrost Green) w/ black stripes.
Original S. Ontario dealer-sold car and I have traced back all of the previous 8 owners except the first who was rumoured to be an NHL player who played in the US and traded the car back into the original dealer after 1 hockey season.
Original (born with) engine and M21 trans. Rear appears to have replaced with an almost perfect date code 12 bolt - but axle tube stamp indicates it should be out of a '68 Nova?..  2nd owner who was both 2nd and 4th! told me he raced the car so maybe the rear let go at some point by 1972 1973?
Body is very nice and straight with only rear quarters being replaced (G M OEM full panels apparently by the 6th owner in 1980 when repainted red) due to anal tendencies for some apparently very minor wheelwell corrosion.
Very few options - standard black interior in very nice condition with only carpets and dash pad (old one I still have) not 'born with'.
OEM radio gone and 2 aftermarket rear speakers are only mods internally.
I have a cowl hood on it but still have original flat hood.
The hidden VIN stamps are there and match.
Presently the 302 shortblock sits on a stand in my basement for lack of affordable gas and in it's place is a 350 4 bolt with the original bits like heads intake etc. on it - the 302 was rebuilt with race quality bearings, Mains were studded and both they and rods have ARP fasteners and had all had clearances massaged to be perfect - it has .030 over TRW L2210AF pistons and the crank is polished and uncut. I don't have the original 4053 carb. 
Front and rear Spoilers were on the car from the 1980 repaint and are not original to the car.
The car was an early build model with most of the date coding in late Dec '67 and thus has some engine parts that are leftover '67 Z'ed bits like the 266 distributor.
Old pictures I saw and previous owners stated that it had the 302 front fender emblems and not the Z 2/8 ones now in place.
Underside of car is very solid but typical of a Canadian car has some crustiness and things like crossmember, controls arms, and rear, have some pitting as would be expected.
Everything like buzzers, wipers, lights etc. all work as new..
The only thing I haven't gotten around to - as it barely sees 200 miles a Summer at best - to shows and cruise nights - is the rear end is leaking somewhat at the pinion seal and it has a slight vibration telling me the pinion bearings and seal need replacement - but otherwise is very quiet.
Brakes are original including rotors, drums, master cylinder, and calipers (with seals and 'O' ring etc.) and all work amazing.
Front and rear bumpers could use new chrome but are somewhat passable - rest of SS and aluminum trim bits are in very good condition.
Glass is original with the exception of the Windshield which now is tinted.
Still has T3's, original marker light and rear lenses etc.

Lots more... and I could go on forever - but if a few of you who are market-savy would care to pass along some rough numbers to give me some starting point when and if I get up the courage when needed, it would be very much appreciated - Randy

PS - I know what the first response will be.. and I've never had any success posting pictures up here so I long ago gave up trying..

Thanks Again..   
     
 
 
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ron Pratte collection on: June 02, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
Is that the one with the 'RS' on the grille, the questionable history, the previous owner who surfaced and then disappeared amidst threats against him after commenting that the VIN attached to it came from a car he scrapped years prior, and that went for something like $129,000 a few years back?
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 08:42:17 PM
Don't see any broach marks and the area of the stamping looks like it has been played with (cleaned up) - in addition to the font of the actual VIN stamp looking pretty large relative to that of the engine assembly code stamp from what I see..
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 16, 2014, 08:33:17 PM
Whoever was driving this car wouldn't be for long if he continually slipped the clutch as badly as he did in the video!
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 06:24:23 PM
(quote).. "Neat!!! and fun too isn't it?  (except for the rare times when you get a hold of a grouchy person who hangs up on you)." (quote)..

Ha - Yea you're sure correct there...
I was calling any and all sources in the long line of contacts my Z had over the years, and was following up on a lead to the third owner who I had been given a possible number for.  Lady answers when I dialed and I gave her my quick 'trying to trace back owners of a '68 Z 2/8 I now own and she cuts me off saying in a promising way "we had a silver Camaro in 1970... what colour is the one you have?".. I was about to tell her that the car I now owned was red, but originally seafrost green (pp code) - but before I got to the silver/green part, she yelled into the phone at full volume "I hate red cars".. and slammed the phone down!
I took that as a hint not to bother for a return try for any more info and moved on..
Turns out the second owner, who I later managed to contact and have a nice conversation with, knew her well and commented "she's loonier than a sh*thouse rat - I'm surprised you got as far as you did with the conversation"..   
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Look what my wife brought home for me just now. on: May 12, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
Probably someone had a long load that hung out well past a closed tailgate (or on the flatbed type of Lowes truck you saw) and when they turned in the lot didn't expect that the long load would sweep a wider area behind, and whatever was protruding got wedged up against your truck in the process..
Had this happen at my camp when a next door neighbour had a delivery truck drop off some building materials at his home and the driver used my driveway to turn around in. Don't think he even knew what he did to my fencepost as it was out of the view from his side mirrors as he swung out and around the corner..
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 04, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
Not all that uncommon to have 'stamp bounce' from what I've seen, but it usually appears with all or at least the adjacent ones in the string being somewhat affected by or with the same issues.. in this case from what my poor eyes can decipher it appears that just the 'V' appears affected which is kind of strange as it was a gang stamp procedure from what I know.
My early Z has this also and all the digits display some 'echo' - but in my case it gets progressively less pronounced towards one end of the string..
Is a 44**** series stamping in line with a 05 month date? I thought that seems kind of low considering, but I will defer to more learned opinions?
Too bad the other casting numbers aren't shown or mentioned as well..
Considering all of the rust on the sheet metal in addition to any and all of mechanical bits as shown, even if the body is solid and those are actually 'born with' guts, it would require a substantial investment on top of the final selling price to bring it back certainly.
It's bad it wasn't stored better - it would have been a  real keeper!     
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1968 Z/28 Block - Trans - Rear Numbers... Original Stamps? on: April 19, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
I was just comparing the appearance and angle of the broaching marks that I have on my 302 block in addition to pictures that I have kept of other known good stampings, and all I can say is they don't appear to be at the 90 degree angle to the end of the block stamp pad area as the one I am referencing..
Whether that apparent angle is because of the perspective the picture was taken at or actually they are not square to the centre line of the bores isn't clear - but my impression was the broaching was done and therefore the marks created were always in-line with the bore centreline.. these appear in the posted pictures not to be!
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