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Originality / Re: 68 Z ground wire

« on: August 08, 2007, 03:44:35 PM »

Is this on another WP stud like the right side, upper that the alt bracket goes on?  Or is it just under a WP bolt?  Thansk.

On my particular car it is just under a bolt. I believe the stud s were reserved for the other side where the alternator bracket(s) were attached and the only place and reason studs were used.
I was trying to find where I had the idea I had mounted the ground strap properly. Probably (a) becasue that was where it was when I got the car and (b) where Jerry's book shows it to be mounted although and couldn't find my copy when I first responded to your post to confirm that. - Randy

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Originality / Re: 68 Z ground wire

« on: August 07, 2007, 11:38:54 AM »

Does anyone know where the neg battery wire hooks to on the block of a 68 Z28?

Mine is attached to the top-most bolt - left side of the water pump looking at the engine from the front - just above the lower rad hose.... Randy

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General Discussion / Re: fan clutch length

« on: August 05, 2007, 03:40:05 AM »

can't remember which dealer classic or ricks etc... that I saw offered fan clutches with different lenght shafts? or did I dream it all?  I need to get my fan deeper into the shroud by at least a half an inch to an inch

I don't know about the fan shaft itself but I have seen spacers that sit between the pulley face and the shaft itself to space out the fan somewhat. Most that I recall were made from aluminim and I'm sure could be easily cut down down to any given thickness for a specific application. Seems to me maybe Moroso or  Mr. Gasket was the brand on the packaging but its been a while since I have seen any around.
Google something or check out Jegs or Summit and see what you come up with... It really wouldn't be very hard to make something up for a .5"- 1.0" thick spacer from round bar stock that matches the flange diameter of the original shaft. Then just measure the bolt pattern and drill a set of holes accurately and get some longer bolts you're all set - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 21, 2007, 02:04:35 PM »

A few years back, I bought a set of AC Delco air shocks for my multileaf '68.  Has anyone checked to see if these are still available?

Jeff - Ran the application on the AC Delco site and came away with a number which I gave to a local dealer parts guy here in my neck of the woods and he came up blank through GM Canada.
Can't remember what the # was and I don't have it with me right now - something like 504-508 or something - anyway it is no longer available..
Thanks anyway. I ordered some Monroe's and in a week or so should be able to see for myself if they will work... - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 16, 2007, 01:34:19 PM »

I just checked and there is not an air shock made by Monroe that fits multi-leaf 68-9 Camaros anymore. The closest is the one for the single-leaf which doesn't make sense as it is a longer shock, and usually the multi-leaf cars need the longer shock. If your car is finished, I would remove the rear shocks that are on there now. Once you have them removed, measure from the bottom of the upper shock mount to the center of the lower mounting point on the shock plate. If that distance is equal to or longer than the compressed length of the air shock dimensions listed above, then I would say try them. Also compare the extended & compressed lengths of the shocks you removed to the dimensions above. The dimensions are so close that they should work, now don't forget to take into consideration the upper washer and bushing for the shock when measuring your car. I wish I could have helped more. BTW, the NAPA number is MA711 for the single leaf shock, which is the same for O'Reilly's, Advance, and Autozone...............RatPack...........................

Thanks for you efforts - Can't see why the single leaf variety wouldn't work - and I'll probably give them a try. The tech guy said there was some form of interference with the MA711 model but the lines always attach onto the upper half of the shock and don't come even close to the spring pack itself - so I don't know why he said that. I figure I'll try and order a set and see just how they do fit - can always return them if they don't I guess. Thx - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 15, 2007, 10:08:46 PM »

The ones you mention sound very close - NAPA we don't have up here - was it a brand exclusive to them or was it a generic brand you ended up with like Gabriel or Monroe?
Thanks - Randy

Randy, those are made by Monroe for NAPA. I can do more verification Monday through a friend that owns the local NAPA store, but I believe Monroe supplies Pep Boys, Autozone, and Advance Auto..........RatPack..........

Rat... I would appreciate that - I ran the MA815 number given previously by Mikey and it is sourced to a Ford Lincoln model!! It may fit but isn't very close model-wise to any Camaro and may not have the proper travel or damping due to the different intended usage...
The 49374 on the box I still had in the garage is in fact a Gabriel number for some sort of Toyota wagon or something -so again ones can be found that will work but possibly just not well as I stated mine never seemed to operate that good from the get go.
I would have thought that Monroe would have other shocks intended for GM and/or other makes and models that the tech help guy would have been able to access when I called - but I guess I caught him on a bad day from the sound of it.
Appreciate any and all help with this - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 14, 2007, 03:01:50 PM »

monroe's MA815 work

Mike:
Funny that Monroe doesn't know that... do you have some in use?
Is that part number really intended for that app or is it just for another make or model of vehicle and it apdapts? If that is the case and it has specs close to what a Camaro actually needs I may be tempted to jump on some regardless since my options seem limited obviously - Thanks for all the help I have rec'd so far from everyone here - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 14, 2007, 02:57:02 PM »

I have a set on my Z28 and you can have them when I change out for the originals ones I have.  I will look tomorrow and see what kind they are.  I think Gabriel and they do look old.

'68 My old ones are supposed to be Gabriels as well and the old box says 715sc and 49374 on it but no brand name so I wonder what they actually are and supposed to fit...
A friend went the 15 hours from here to a Fall Carlise 12-13 years ago and picked them up for me when there. I'll have to try and run those numbers to see what they were really intended for! - but they did fit although never worked that well.
Thanks for the offer - your old one's shipping would probably end up costing almost as much as new ones here if I could get some - Thanks - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Re: Air Shocks

« on: July 14, 2007, 02:38:32 PM »

It would be up to you as to whether they would fit or not. The last set I bought for a multi-leaf car was about 4 years ago and they were from NAPA. I cannot believe that Monroe would quit making these.............RatPack...............

I can't either - but that was the story I got from a somewhat surly tech-guy yesterday at Monroe. About the only good help I got from him was "the height of the spring pack interferes with the air valve"... He didn't at all seem interested in trying to cross other models or similar GM lines to see if other models might have some that would work either.
The ones you mention sound very close - NAPA we don't have up here - was it a brand exclusive to them or was it a generic brand you ended up with like Gabriel or Monroe?
Thanks - Randy

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Mild Modifications / Air Shocks

« on: July 13, 2007, 11:35:05 AM »

Has anyone found a set of air shocks that will fit the rear of a '68 with multi leaf springs? I tried listings and tech lines for Gabrille and Monroe and all said they had models for '68 single leaf versions - but none for the multi leaf variety - due to clearance issues???
Anyone found a set for a multi leaf application from any other supplier? Nova models apparently have some available but they appear to be different length and mounting brackets although I don't know why, as they were chassis-wise supposed to be the same from what I knew,,,  Thanks - Randy

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General Discussion / Re: New Camaro in Detroit

« on: July 04, 2007, 09:27:50 PM »

I've got my flame suit on so have at me, I just hope that some of this hype from a potential buyer will enlighten them to make some changes before it goes into production

No flames from me here - I have always maintained that the car should have been much more retro from the very outset, and a bare bones Hi- Po model like a '67-'68 L78-type deal available for those who can't afford (and don't want the 6 disk changer/heated mirrors/powered moon roof/version) but want to beat the snot out of the Cobras that are out there now.
I like the way Ford is back-dooring the kits to hop their cars up as well - but they invented that sort of stuff with the early - to mid 90's Mustangs and that is why in my opinion the Camaro line bit the dust soon after. Maybe history is about to repeat itself over again in only a decade! 

The new car just doesn't do it for me and I hate to admit it but the Mustang is the best looking of the bunch so far (no I'm not a Ford fan in the least, just giving credit where due) and IMHO Ford won't get any challenge from the GM stable in this round. The gate has been wide open for a couple of years now but unlike 40 years ago I don't think GM has the goods to make up for the lost time and market with what they are showing here.

I have my asbestos undershorts on now too... so light it up!    Randy

         

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Could this be the original distributor in my 1968 Z/28?

« on: January 22, 2007, 09:29:52 PM »

Thanks for the great info jerry - unfortunately now it appears it's not just a fairly expensive distributor, but it appears to be the one that belongs where it is and where it will have to stay - so much for the $$ signs in my eyes!! - Ha just kidding... - Randy

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Could this be the original distributor in my 1968 Z/28?

« on: January 22, 2007, 03:57:48 PM »

Good info Jerry... Just curious was the 7A25 a fairly common date for many of these distributors to be coded and if so how many other groups of them have you found other than the 8A & 8B examples that you make reference to?
In other words is the theory that they were produced in batches a workable one and do you have any idea how often did it occur? I always felt my distributor was original to the car but some doubt did linger considering the obvious duration of time the date code displayed. Guess to start this thread off Paul was as well! Thanks again - Randy

 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Could this be the original distributor in my 1968 Z/28?

« on: January 22, 2007, 08:45:53 AM »

Hi Paul:

Yes I'm sure Jerry would know - probably better than anyone out there, but having said that there are still quite a few things that don't always fit 'the norm' when it comes to these first gen cars especially lower volume or specialty models like the Z's etc. but he surely has seen a lot of them and restores these units for customers all the time.
My car is now away in storage and will be for the next 5 months so checking for the water pump numbers isn't at all an easy deal for me at this point. Apparently according to my scribbled notes in my Definitive book (I added my own notes to each part listing in the book as I was searching) I see I found and discerned only part of a date code of G??8 on it when I was originally looking and I guess I never got back to try and find or clairify more than that...
The distributor point cam is the unit that sits on top of the actual distributor shaft itself and has the springs and weights on top, allowing more timing advance than normal due to the longer limiting slot cut into it. The 532 CCW is stamped on the underside of one the the wings of it and you might be able to see it with a small mirror squeezed in and aimed over the points or condensor. Obviously it is much easier to see with the distributor pulled out and held upside down.   - Randy 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Could this be the original distributor in my 1968 Z/28?

« on: January 22, 2007, 06:31:55 AM »

Sorry Ed - I misunderstood you reply - should read a little closer before I post I guess.
Can or should I gather you concur that both of our distributors (Paul's and mine) are probably original even though the dates seem so far off from the accepted norm?
If so, I guess it might or could tell us that Chevy intended the Z/28 model to be a lot more popular than it turned out to be in the first go-around and there were some left over distributors specifically built for those '67 models than languished in the parts bin until the start of the next year's production. That wouldn't be all that surprising since they never really advertised the '67 model from what I know, and only half way into the '68 year did the RPO become the actual model name and advertised as 'The Next Thing To The Corvette' from the ads I have seen.
Sometimes I wonder if parting out one of these things wouldn't be a lot more profiable than selling one intact from some of the EBay pricing I see going on - as I said crazy....    Randy