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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another 1969 Z/28 "Barn Find" on: April 07, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
is that hurst t-handle original? was their an option to have that added?
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 16, 2014, 12:29:08 PM
It looks like several 69 z28's with build dates from at least 10D through 11A received the shorter length rear rally stripes. Mine having the 10D build date. I guess no one can say all Los built z28's built between those build dates had the shorter stripes, but at least know several did. I have pictures of at least 4 to 5 other 69 28's that have the shorter stripes. Pictures were supplied by John Mello and of course this post of the Hugger orange 69 z28. What I can say is that my 69 z28 has the original paint, built at the LOS plant, build date of 10D, shorter length rear stripes that match the factory assembly manual specifications and the shorter length rear spoiler (Longer length 1969 Camaro spoiler not available during build - factory used 1968 Camaro spoiler).

It's unfortunate that some owners of these early built z28's that came from LOS, had their car repainted to match the consensus that the shorter stripes are wrong and replaced their shorter length rear spoilers with the longer rear spoilers to match the consensus that the shorter length rear spoilers were also wrong.

I feel very strongly that if you have and early built 1969 z28 that came from LOS plant, with the original paint having the shorter rear stripes and the shorter rear spoiler, that this is an indication of Authenticity of a factory built 1969 z28. The only other camaro that came with rally stripes was the pace car, I dont know if LOS made pace cars. It is also unknown the value these unique z28's may garner, maybe higher value,  maybe lower value. But, for sure, they are unique and verifiable as a factory built 1969 z28.

Like to hear from John z or Jerry McNeish.

asm69



3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 14, 2014, 10:32:08 PM
x66 714,

I also have a Hugger Orange 69 z28 with the short stripes. I can also supply information to you as well.

asm69
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 14, 2014, 03:59:57 PM
Good point. The measurements of the rear stripes on my early built 69 z28 match the factory manual. Regardless the reason of why it happened, the fact is that these few factory 69 z28's with the shorter length rear stripes are unique.  And I also feel that having the original paint with these shorter
stripes authenicate the vehicle as an original 69 z28. Like to hear John Z comment on this.

asm69
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 12, 2014, 09:43:58 PM
Excellent point John Mello. And as I said before those early built z28's from LOS that have original paint with the shorter rear stripes is an indication that the car is a factory original z28. I believe no other camaro's were made with the rally stripes except the pace car.

asm69
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 12, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
THE PICTURE POSTED BY x66 714  LOOKS JUST MY EARLY BUIILT Z28 FROM LOS. THERES ANOTHER THREAD BY JOHN MELLO REGARDING THE SHORT REAR STRIPES ON EARLY BUILT Z28'S FROM LOS. SO, IF THIS SHORT REAR STRIPE PAINT IS WRONG AS POSTED JOHN Z, THEN AT LEAST IT CAN SAID THAT THOSE EARLY BUILT Z28'S WITH ORIGINAL STRIPES THAT WERE PAINTED SHORT ARE FACTORY Z28'S. ITS ANOTHER INDICATION OF AUTHENTICITY.

ASM69
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 10, 2014, 03:11:03 PM
My 69 z is also a 72 72 with a LOS build. I also think that the build date is 10B. I have the short rear stripes. Their are other threads
regarding that some of the early built z28's followed the assembly manual specifications for the rear stripe layout. Others have commented that
the assembly manual is wrong, but with no supporting evidence.

asm69
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Build sheet vs. "IBM" on: August 05, 2013, 03:27:11 PM
I also found one of these IBM cards. I have a los built z, october 1968 build, short rear stripes and short rear spoiler.
couldn't make any sense of the punches. Would need the record data to decifer.

9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z28 Stripe on: July 04, 2013, 09:08:44 PM
From this discussion I think their may be something to say concerning early built Van Nuy's 1969 z28's. The sentiment from this discussion indicates that those early build 69 Z28's were painted improperly, even though the Assembly manual provides those specifications. It is my opinion, that those of you who have one of these early built Z28's with the short rear stripes have a factory built 1969 Z28 Camaro. It is for sure is a rare occurrence,  and only so many exist with the short rear stripes. This alone may make those vehicles more valuable and another indication of authenticity.

 I would like to hear what Jerry M thinks about that.

10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1969 z28 camaro - intake and exhaust valves on: May 16, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
looking to replace all my exhaust valves and intake valves with a fresh set. My local
GM dealer informed me that part numbers 3849814 (intake) and 3849818 (exhaust) as well as
part numbers 12363753(intake) and 12363754(exhaust) are no loner available.

Does gm offer intake and exhaust valves for the 1969 z28 302 engine?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chambered Exhaust Option - 69 Z on: March 28, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Was the owner of the 69z the original owner
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z/28 stripes on: September 04, 2011, 10:50:43 PM
Thanks for those comments mark. I guess it would be fair to say that if you had a early los built 69Z with the rear stripes starting around 5 inches below the bottom of the rear glass, this could be considered a type of validator as being an original z28. I don't think any other 1969 camaro was made with that striping scheme except the pace car of course.


13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z/28 stripes on: September 03, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
Do your research well.

If your car is an early produced LOS z28, the stripes at the rear will match the assembly manual. There is another thread somewhere showing pictures of several early built LOS z28 with the rear stripes matching the assembly manual.

14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z28 Stripe on: April 12, 2011, 08:42:27 PM
The thread was very interesting. I went and looked at my trunk lid torsion bars again. one is thicker than the other.
Both rods have a rubber sleve over them. Hugger orange paint overspray exists over the rubber sleves and  the end
of the rods. The rods also have trunk splatter on them as well.

Does the having orange overspray on the rods indicate that their factory rods?

Maybe I should post a picture? I'm not sure if it helps.

asm69
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z28 Stripe on: April 12, 2011, 07:07:07 PM
Thanks for your post. It makes great sense. So, what should I do in respects to the rear stripes? If I leave them as is, it reflects what actually happened during a short period of time, though incorrect, it makes my 69z unique. And of course the uniqueness is added
by the short rear spoiler. I think your correct that the spoiler was added at the dealer. My trunk torsion bars are of different sizes I forgot
what this indicates? I think it  indicates that the rear spoiler was factory or dealer installed. So, what do you think. Keep stripes as is for historical reasons or update to correct length.

asm69
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