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2221  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Alternator (GEN) light on when key is off. on: May 22, 2006, 03:34:36 PM
Jim,

You don't necessarily need a new Delco unit. A rebuilt one from Auto Zone, Pep Boys, Kragen, NAPA, etc... will work just as well.

As for what caused the problem in the first place, that's difficult to say. If you KNOW that you didn't accidently reverse the positive and negative cables (even for just a second since that's all it takes), then you have to start looking elsewhere. Although not very common in the way of popping diodes, it "could" be the regulator. But really, that's about it.

Did you have the 3 shops check the diodes?

Ed


2222  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Power steer pump cap on: May 22, 2006, 03:28:35 PM
Sorry guys but I've been away on business for the last several days.

Here's what the "good book" has to say (and remember, like JohnZ says, you can't always go by the P&A)...

Group 6.635

62-69 Nova, Camaro, Chevelle - Cap Assy, oil fill (tube gauge) - 5690846

However, again the P&A is inconsistant! On the very next line is shows:

69 Camaro - Cap Assy, filler - 7803820

No indications on what the caps are made of. Sorry...

Ed
2223  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: VIN info for "67 RS/SS on: May 14, 2006, 04:44:31 PM
The Z27 option was a 1969 only item and was created because of the introduction of the "non-SS" 350/255 (LM1), and later in the year, the "non-SS" 350/250 (L65). The Z27 option included, among other things, the 350/300 TurboFire V8, Special Hood, Sport Striping, Hood Insulation, F70x14 Wide-Oval Whilte Lettered Tires, Special Suspension, Power Disk Brakes, Bright Accents on Simulated Rear Fender Louvers, Bright Engine Accents and SS Emblems. In addition, if you so desired, you could then "upgrade" your SS package with one of four other engines available. The 396/325 (L35), the 396/350 (L34), the 396/375 (L78) or the 396/375 Aluminum Head (L89). Note that these engines were only available if you purchased the Z27 SS Package and, of course, were an additional charge to the already optional SS charges. For instance, after you purchased the Z27 SS Package at $281.00, you could then add the 396/325 (L35) engine for an additional $60.00. Sure wish these prices were still valid today!!  Roll Eyes

Now, as there was only one 350 engine available in 67 and 68 (the 295HP L48), and since it was designated an "SS" automatically, there wasn't a need to have a separate "SS" and "non-SS" option code. Also, for 1967, the "included" transmission for the 396/325 was the M13, with the Muncie M20 4 speed and the Turbo 400 being optional.

Mr. Barker, some of the codes on your Protecto-Plate seem to be missing, and the options codes don't seem to be in the correct order. Can you post a picture of your plate so we can supply additional information for you?

Ed
2224  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Alternator (GEN) light on when key is off. on: May 13, 2006, 08:08:59 PM
Jim,

If you accidently put the battery cables on the wrong terminals when you hooked up the battery, you probably popped the diode(s)s in the alternator. (Ask me how I know this!!) Don't feel bad, it happens all the time...

The only "fix" is to either find and replace the bad doide(s), or get another alternator. If yours is "numbers matching", replace the diodes(s). it's farily easy to do, but you do have to take the case apart. If you're not concerned about numbers matching (which it sounds like from your post), get a new alternator from your local jobber.

Ed
2225  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AIR pump pulley PN# (for '68 396) ??? on: May 12, 2006, 11:04:26 PM
Not only that, but you can't think like a normal person with looking things up in this book. For instance, if you go looking for a "radiator" you won't find one!! No, Chevrolet DID use radiators in these cars, but in the P&A they're called a "Core"!

Here's another example... It took me several days to find the "Console" group. I accidently stumbled on it while searching for something else. "Console"?? Nope. they're called "Seat Seperators"!!

There are lots of other thngs like that in this book that make it difficult to use. I guess when you open this book you have to start thinking like a parts counter man (or woman... Don't want to get in dutch with the females)!!

 Grin

Ed
2226  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: blacked out rear panel on: May 12, 2006, 10:48:39 PM
HERE'S A LINK to all you need to know about the tail pan. And even more!

Ed
2227  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AIR pump pulley PN# (for '68 396) ??? on: May 12, 2006, 09:13:52 AM
That's correct for the Camaro, but I was looking at the applications in general, not just concentraiting on the Camaro.

Chevelle's (and Full Sized cars) were available with the 396 and Powerglide, and I don't seem to be able to find that application. If you look at the chart above, it shows:

"1968 Nova, Chevelle, Camaro w/C.A.C. (8 cyl.) (exc. P.G)"

Then it contradicts itself by the next line:

"1968 Chevelle (S.S.) w/C.A.C." Perhaps that includes all transmissions???

Sometimes that book is difficult to read. Or maybe I should say, difficult to decypher!

Ed
2228  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AIR pump pulley PN# (for '68 396) ??? on: May 11, 2006, 06:02:56 PM
Well, okay... Then according to my September, 1968 P&A 34, the P/N's are as follows:

1968 Nova, Camaro (396) (exc. Sp. H/Per., C.A.C) - 3917234
1968 All (307, 327, 350), 1968 Nova, Chevelle, Camaro w/C.A.C. (8 cyl.) (exc. P.G), 1968 Chevelle (S.S.) w/C.A.C. - 3917238
1968 Nova, Chevelle, Camaro (exc A.T., C.A.C. 396), 1969 Nova (exc. P.G., 396), 1969 Camaro (exc. P.G., Sp. H/Per. 396) - 3927116
1968 All w/Sp. H/Per. (396) - 3925522

So according to the P&A, the 3917234 would be correct for the 396/325 and 396/350 (NON A/C) Camaro, with the 3917238 being used on the 396/325 and 396/350 (WITH A/C, but WITHOUT Powerglide). The problem is, I can't seem to find a pulley number for the 396/325 and 396/350 with A/C AND Powerglide!!!

Make things clear???!!!

Ed
2229  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: AIR pump pulley PN# (for '68 396) ??? on: May 11, 2006, 04:57:16 PM
Why not use the CRG 1968 Pulley Reference Chart??

Ed
2230  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Trying to contact Jon Mello on: May 02, 2006, 08:59:36 PM
Mike,

Here's a link to Jon's WEB site. There's an "Email us" in the upper right corner.

Ed

http://www.historictransam.com/Drivers/JonMello.htm
2231  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Caps for 69 (68?) RS windshield washer bracket on: May 01, 2006, 02:33:58 PM
John,

Thanks, that's what I figured since there's not one on the passengers side (spare tire in the way so it's not needed), but now the real question. WHY did the convertibles not come with this? We have luggage too!!!

Ed
2232  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Caps for 69 (68?) RS windshield washer bracket on: May 01, 2006, 09:04:47 AM
If you look in the AIM (UPC4, Sheet B3 for 1968), you'll see that there was a cap (P/N 3908372) installed on the left rear shock on all first gen's except convertibles. I'm not sure why it exists, nor do I know why it wasn't installed on convertibles. Perhaps for some kind of protections to keep things from getting ripped, but that's just a guess. JohnZ can probably tell us the REAL reason!

Ed
2233  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 Cowl Tag Date and Engine Build Date on: April 27, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
Pace&Z2869,

Regarding your first question on how to tell a reproduction tag from a factory one, it's an unwritten rule on most forums that this information not be discussed for a fairly obvious reason. We don't want the people reproducing these things to get better at it!

As for your second question, you are quite correct. In the early 80's no one even knew what X codes were, or 4P 3L, etc... on Trim Tags. Therefore why go through the trouble of reproducing a tag to fake a car. However, tags were being reproduced for a competely different reason. In the mid 80's there was a guy that used to advertise in Hemmings that would make a new tag for your car so you could change the interior or exterior color. This was directed mostly to the Corvette guys as they were the target at the time, but he could make tags for Tri-5 Chevy's as well. I owned a 57 Chevy Bel Air in the mid 80's and was thinking about changing the color from the original white (BOOOORING) to something else. At the time, changing colors was kind of frowned upon since it now made the car "modified". At the time, the "Classic Chevy Club" (THE club for tri-5 Chevy's), deducted points for changing interior or exterior colors. I believe the Corvette groups also did the same. Therefore, if one could change colors and still show the correct code on the Trim Tag, no points would be deducted.

Times have changed since then and changing tags to match your "new" color has gone by the wayside! Now people are changing tags to bilk unsuspecting buyers. It's become BIG business and there have been equally, BIG problems when these tags are exposed. One guy got a punch in the nose at a Corvette show a few years ago!! So you can see where things can get ugly.

If you have any concerns or the originallity of your tag, post pictures of the VIN and the Trim Tag here or on one of the other Camaro WEB sites and the experts will be able to help you out.

Ed
2234  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 Cowl Tag Date and Engine Build Date on: April 26, 2006, 09:37:32 AM
RC,

I NEVER get involved in discussions on Trim Tag authenticity because there are enough guys out there that know the facts and can report as such. And, as a matter of fact, Kurt is one of the best, as is Daniel.

That being said, when you first posted a picture of your tag, I knew that it wasn't factory, but didn't say anything. I didn't want to be the bearer of bad news for you, so I chose to leave it alone. I learned long ago that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Although I can understand and appreciate your wanting to believe the tag to be correct, due to the fact that you've owned the car for so many years, you have to realize that even in the early 80's, there were people manufacturing reproduction tags for these cars, and reproduction Trim Tags, even today, are fairly easy to spot if you've seen a lot of them over the years. I won't go into details, but there are subtle nuances in the originals that are left off the reproductions.

Fisher Body manufactured hundreds of cars a day and as a general rule, didn't make this kind of mistake. Yes, mistakes were made with Trim Tags, but things like an incorrect paint code, or an incorrect interior code (of which my car has), but not an incorrect date code. You have to understand the process of which these tags were produced to realize why this type of mistake wouldn't happen, and believe me, Kurt knows.

I'm sure no one here will ever be able to pursuade you that your tag is incorrect, just as you won't ever be able to pursuade the guys here at the CRG that it IS correct. But the most important thing is that you enjoy your car no matter what and be willing to listen. Most of the guys associated with this site have 40 years or more of experience with First Generations Camaro's, and have a lot of knowledge to offer. They also value YOUR input as well, so please don't take all this personally. I would hate to see you frustrated to the point where you no longer post.

Keep the lines of communications open with these guys even if it's NOT on the forum!!

Ed
2235  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 15 x 6 YS Code Rally Wheel on: April 23, 2006, 10:10:44 PM
Keith,

Yup. 5 on 4-3/4"

With a few exceptions, Chevrolet has used the same bolt pattern almost forever!

Ed
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