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2131  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 09, 2006, 11:37:03 AM
Les' is also a Norwood car and it's currently FOR SALE ON EBAY!! WHY Les, WHY WHY WHY?Huh?

Ed
2132  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Questions on 68 RS SS 396 smog set-up on: September 09, 2006, 11:35:25 AM
1. Yes, 879 and 178 are the correct exhaust manifolds.

2. I don't believe the A/C made a difference on the smog equipment, but talk to Les (mr396). His car's currently for sale on ebay by the way, so HERE'S A LINK for you to look at.

3. Yes, some of the parts like the pump are date coded. The upper bracket is also a 1968 big block only part (see the pictures) becuase the diverter mounts to it.

Ed



2133  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Bellhousing/flywheel/clutch for 67SS/RS350 on: September 08, 2006, 11:53:51 PM
Dan,

Flywheels are hard to nail down since there were so many part numbers and casting numbers used over the years. Even the P&A is unreliable since it would only list the "current" Part Number (which for my September, 1968 P&A was 3889694).

Here's a bit more on the 3889694 flywheel on the NCRS WEB SITE. The only thing I can find on the 3998281 is on the TEAM CAMARO WEB SITE and Jonesy shows it as a 69 part.

See what I mean? Flywheels are hard to get right!!

 Angry

Ed
2134  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 08, 2006, 11:33:55 PM
Marty,

Are the lenses of the 67/68 Camaro AM radios tinted or not? (By the way, I still owe you that Muncie Reverse Rod you asked for!!! Someday I'll get it to you!)

 Embarrassed

Ed
2135  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 08, 2006, 11:25:08 PM
Rich,

In the WHEELCOVER THREAD you mentioned the Ray Miller book, "Camaro! Chevy's Classy Chassis" and brought up a good point regarding the timeline of that book. April of 1981 was the first printing, which means that the research and pictures were done in 1980 and perhaps even earlier. This means that the 68's referenced were approximately 12 years old. I looked at the RS Grilles of the two cars that still had the original California black plates, and noted the color of the grille -vs- the license plate number. Here's what I got:

License VIW 548 (Page 98 through 105) Black Grille (appears to be chromed on page 100 but I believe that to be due to the lighting.)
License WBH 171 (Page 96) Black Grille

Both of these cars are "San Diego County" cars (City Chevrolet, located in San Diego, and Weseloh Chevrolet, Located in Carlsbad), and going by the License Plate Numbers, both of these cars are late 68 models as well. "V" and "W" License Plates were mid 68 releases for San Diego County. (My first 68, which I bought in February 1976 from the original owner, was also a "W" issue and it was a June (Los Angeles) built car. And now that I think of it, this car (also a SS/RS) had the black grille because I remember other 68 RS owners telling me it was wrong at the time!!

Anyway, it's staring to appear that the late 68 cars may have received the black grille. Of course, either or both of these cars in the book may have had their grilles changed at some point, so this data could be skewed. But if not, it's just more evidence to support Steve's theory.

Oh yeah, my current car is also a Los Angeles built car, built in 05D. Les? Steve? Are your cars Norwood or Los Angeles?

Ed
2136  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: starter motor for 1967 rs/ss 350 manual trans on: September 06, 2006, 01:46:37 PM
It's engraved in the case itself, along with the date code and other information.

Ed
2137  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Bellhousing/flywheel/clutch for 67SS/RS350 on: September 05, 2006, 01:45:17 PM
Dan,

yes, the 67 350 used the 11" clutch with the 621 bell housing. The 3791021 flywheel is for the 10.5" clutch though. You need the P/N 3889694 11" flywheel.

Ed
2138  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 350 Oil Filter on: September 05, 2006, 01:38:06 PM
1968 was the change-over from the canister to the spin-on however, there were some engines early in 68 that continued to use the 67 engine, therefore the 67 canister. This is documented in the September 6th, 1967 Engineering Service Letter (attached).

There was also an adapter that you could purchase to convert your 68 (and later) "spin-on" block back to canister! There were a lot of companies and police departments that had a stockpile of canister filters that didn't want to have to toss them and go to the spin-on. The P/N for that adapter is 3916328.

Ed

2139  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1111263 Delco Remy distributor on: September 04, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Correct. It was listed in the Heavy Duty Parts List and available "Over the Counter".

HERE'S where I got the info from...

Ed
2140  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 04, 2006, 06:21:22 PM
Steve,

I don't believe the backing plates would make a difference in the overall scheme of things. Especially since my car is the same as yours and Les' (with the exception of the backing plates and the fact that Les has the 68 door covers while you and I have the 67).

Here's a picture though (passenger side with the drivers side the same design...)

Ed

2141  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 04, 2006, 04:50:25 PM
Les,

In that case you have the 68 headlamp doors. Again though, NO Chrome heatstamping, right?

I think we might be able to assume that the change to the grille and doors was made somewhere between 04A (ccargo's car WITH the chrome heatstamping), and 05D (My car WITHOUT the Heatstamping). However, this is assuming there WAS a change!! Not enough info to make any kind of real determination just yet.

If we could get a few more members with RS cars to chime in here, preferrably members with cars built between 04A and 05D, we might be able to narrow this down a bit and come up with a real resolution regarding this.

Ed
2142  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 04, 2006, 04:15:55 PM
Here's what I'm referring to. Notice how the horizontal and vertical bars are at the same level.

Ed

2143  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 04, 2006, 04:07:53 PM
Steve,

Yes, mine is the same (see the picture below). BTW, this is the Passenger's side...

The only difference is the "shadowing" where the metal Backing Plate butts up against the plastic door. Notice the difference between my "shadowing" and Les'...

Les, are the bars on your doors flush or do the horizontal bars extend out about 1/32"? (See the next picture...)

Ed

2144  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille on: September 04, 2006, 12:27:36 PM
Les,

I couldn't find a P/N on my grille so there may not be one. However, the easiest way to tell a 67 RS Grille from a 68 is to look at the horizontal bars. If they're the same level as the vertical bars, it's a 67. If however, they extend about about 1/32" out from the vertical bars, it's a 68. (This was where the chrome hotstamping was applied and it made it easier to do if the horizontal strip was farther out from the rest of the grille.) Also check your headlamp doors. If they're the 67 style (both horizontal and vertical strips the same depth), you might want to pull one and look for the P/N on the back. It'll be either 3898136 for the passenger's side, or 3898135 for the driver's side. Be carefull when you unscrew the 4 screws!! I broke one of mine in half from the build up of rust. (Luckily I was able to use some penetraiting oil and an extractor and get it out.) So you might want to spray some PB Blaster (or equivilant) on the threads before you remove them. Easy to access since they go through the metal door housing...

I agree with Steve regarding the weathering. I examined my grill from stem to stern and there's absolutely NO chrome (hotstamp) anywhere on it. You would think that there would be SOME reminants left, even after all these years. After all, the chrome (hotstamp) on the "SS" emblem is still there...

Rich, let me know if I can be of any help on this one. This is getting interesting!!

Ed
2145  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 04, 2006, 12:17:03 PM
Yes, I believe so. Therefore if someone has a 67 or 68 Camaro AM AND a 67 or 68 Firebird AM, you can help.

Ed
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