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Decoding/Numbers / Re: tag
« on: June 08, 2011, 01:14:17 AM »
Clem, original documention is hard to place a value on. Some people covet it while others could care less. I've seen original docs go for several hundred dollars and some go for almost nothing.

I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but this is really something that you and the buyer would have to negotiate.

Ed

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Site Comments/Discussion / MOVED: battery or alt
« on: June 07, 2011, 09:28:31 PM »
This topic has been moved to Maintenance.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8191.0

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: tag
« on: June 07, 2011, 06:51:13 PM »
1969 Camaro Coupe with black standard interior and special paint (with black vinyl top), assembled the third week of November, 1968 at the Norwood, Ohio plant.

69 12437 NOR162446
711                     - B
11C

Ed

3274
General Discussion / Re: rear antenna question, 67
« on: June 07, 2011, 02:23:18 PM »
Going by the AIM, the cable was installed by Fisher Body but the rest was installed by Chevrolet. If this is the case, the 1.12" hole was drilled.

Ed

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General Discussion / Re: 68 kickdown lever
« on: June 07, 2011, 02:09:24 PM »
What transmission are you running? For the M40 it looks like the 3924412 is for Rochester only and not required for the Holley.

Ed

3276
General Discussion / Re: Correct alternator ?
« on: June 07, 2011, 02:08:27 PM »
The standard 37 amp alternator for all Camaro V8 engines in 68 is the 1100794. The 795 was only used on full size cars and Chevelles.

Ed

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General Discussion / Re: 68 kickdown lever
« on: June 07, 2011, 01:30:41 AM »
For 1968, the Holley was only installed on the Z28 and L78 (or L78/L89) engines, and neither of those were offered with an automatic transmisison, so it would be Rochester only.

Ed

3278
Thanks. Let us know what you find.

As for worth, yes. Any car with its original drive train is worth more than one without. Same goes for original colors, interior, etc... However, even if the car still has the original engine, transmission and axle, what it's worth is hard to determine over the internet. An actual inspection of the car would be required by a First Generation Camaro expert. Here in the US we're lucky to have Jerry MacNeish. Not only a well respected expert in this field, but a fellow CRG member as well. I don't think Jerry travels to other countries to certify cars, but you might want to ask anyway. Especially if you're really serious about the car and it turns out to have the original drive train. Jerry's web site is http://www.z28camaro.com/consvcs.html and you can call him at 1-410-781-0418.

In the meantime, Daniel (another CRG member) sent me the original 2004 ebay auction information that I've posted below. The seller was a dealer, so I highly doubt he would remember the car, but if you would like his ebay ID anyway, email me off forum and I'll give it to you. My email address is in my profile.

Item number: 4513253058
Central Point, OR
 
1967 CAMARO 396 A/T TURBO 400 P/S BLACK ON BLACK VERY SHARP CAR
 
I TOOK THIS CAR ON TRADE IT IS VERY CLEAN , # SAY IT IS A 396 CAR .ALL REDON INTERIOR, NEWER PAINT .14 / 7 RALLYS BF GOODRICH TIRES. TRIM  AND BUMPERS VERY NICE SHAPE, GLASS IS VERY GOOD, ALL LIGHTS WORK, HEATER WORKS .MOTOR VERY FRESH RUNS VERY STRONG , TRANS SHIFTS VERY NICE SHIFT KIT. EVERY THING ON THIS CAR WAS REPLACED OR REBUILT .THIS IS A VERY NICE CAR NEEDS NOTHING READY TO CRUISE.
I AM A OREGON DEALER. YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY ALL TAXES AND TITLE FEES THAT ARE DUE IN YOUR STATE YOU WILL BE GIVEN A CLEAR TITLE TO DO SO.CAR IS SOLD AS IS NO WARRANTY. A $2000.000 DOPOSIT WILL BE DUE AT END OF AUCTION. BALANCE DUE WITHIN TEN DAYS OF AUCTION END. CAN HELP WITH SETTING UP TRANSPORT


Ed

3279
If you can get pictures of the engine pad and the transmission and axle stampings, we can give you a little better indication of what it's worth, but without knowing if the drive train is original or not, it's a little difficult. We know it's an L35, but is it original??

We don't have the VIN so if you could let us know that as well, we'd appreciate it.

Ed

3280
The car was on ebay back in December of 2004 but I don't know how much it sold for at that time. The only notes we have in the database is that it's a "Nice car painted black w/white bb stripe, spoilers, console". The seller didn't show any of the important stuff like the engine pad, axle code, etc..., so we don't know if it's numbers matching or not.

Ed

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Originality / Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
« on: June 01, 2011, 06:55:33 PM »
Quote
...If a rear spoiler was installed by the dealer, did they also install the stiffer torsion rod?

Not usually. Dealers just moved the torsion rod down to the next slot.

See THIS THREAD.

Ed

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Originality / Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
« on: June 01, 2011, 04:52:19 PM »
If the spoiler was factory installed, the trunk lid emblem was repositioned forward 3.27 inches from the standard location. If it was installed by the dealer, they were supposed to reposition it like the factory but most didn't bother.

Ed

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General Discussion / Re: Starter ID help
« on: May 30, 2011, 06:57:19 PM »
1108435 is a 1970 Pontiac Grand Prix or Pontiac Tempest (400 and 455 exec Ram Air)

Ed

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Originality / Re: 68 Alternator Fan
« on: May 27, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »
Well, like Kurt said, we really need the numbers off the alternator to see what's going on.

Ed

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Originality / Re: 68 Alternator Fan
« on: May 26, 2011, 04:39:10 PM »
I don't think so but it's hard to tell. I enlarged just that area and it looks like it might be the "normal" 2 groove pulley since they look to be "squared-off" edges on the blades and not the "half-round holes" like yours. But again, it's hard to tell from that picture.

Martin, I've never seen any codes stamped on a 68 alternator either, but according to the REPOP HOUSES, they were used. (Of course, according to the repop houses the "Caution Fan" sticker was also used, so there you go!!)

Ed


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