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Originality / Re: 68 Radio
« on: September 03, 2006, 02:07:23 AM »
Phil,

You're referring to the tinting of the lens right? The Camaro lens is tinted and the Firebird is clear. Actually, the picture I posted doens't show the tinting very well. It's a bit darker than it looks. The flash washed it out a little...

Ed

3002
Restoration / Re: Finding the Correct Underhood Lamp
« on: September 03, 2006, 02:01:42 AM »
Phil,

Yes, all the same for 67. (Corvair, Camaro, Chevelle, etc...)

The same goes for 68 and 69, although all three years were different part numbers.

If you're looking, there's one on EBAY right now!!

Ed

3003
Originality / Re: 68 Radio
« on: September 03, 2006, 12:07:19 AM »
How about this one?

Ed


3004
Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: September 02, 2006, 10:49:12 PM »
Steve,

The CRG guys don't always read every thread. You might want to email them to get a better response.

Ed

3005
Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: September 02, 2006, 08:55:50 PM »
Steve,

What kind of survey are you looking to do? I have a 68 SS/RS 396 that's (supposedly) in the database. At least I submitted the info many years ago...

Ed

3006
Originality / Re: Pulley's
« on: August 26, 2006, 09:13:09 PM »
If you're not interested in "original" pieces, RICK'S FIRST GENERATION, D&R CLASSIC (among others) sell repops of most of the pulleys that are close in appearance (with some being closer in appearance than others) to originals. Of course, it all depends on your needs, A/C -vs- NON-A/C, P.S. -vs- NON-P.S., A.I.R -vs- NON-A.I.R., etc...

Ed

3007
Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 26, 2006, 08:20:24 PM »
I'm not sure how that would be handled Steve. I can see where this could get messy depending on just what needed to be replaced. However, I'm sure things could be worked out...

Ed

3008
Originality / Re: Pulley's
« on: August 26, 2006, 06:18:22 PM »
Check out the 1968 CAMARO CRG PULLEY REPORT. This should give you all the info you need to start scouring the countryside.

Ed

3009
Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 26, 2006, 03:57:39 PM »
Steve,

John can probably answer this better than I, but in my experience, GM's policy was (and has always been) as long as they had a suitable replacement that fit, that was good enough. I also believe that it was GM's policy to have "suitable replacements" available for around 10 years after the car had left production, but again, John can answer this better than I. Finally, it also depended on how many of a particular part they still had in stock.

As an example, the 67 Left Hand Door (3898135) was discontinued before 1971 so they probably didn't have a lot of these left in stock, and siince the 68 doors were a sutiable replacement, no need to manufacture more. (The 68 Left and Right Hand Doors - 3919063 and 3919064 - were still around after 1980.)

And something that a lot of people dont' realize is that they always kept "Left Hand" parts in stock longer than "Right Hand" parts because most accidents to automobiles occure to the left side of the car.

As for the 68 Grille, the entire 68 Grille Assembly (3929281) was still available into the late 70's (dscontinued in November, 1979), but again, I have no idea if that one was the chrome one or just the correct style but black. The 67 Grille Assembly (3905745) didn't even make it to 1971.

Ed

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 26, 2006, 02:29:33 AM »
Steve,

Okay, now I see... Rich stated that even though the part number was apparently the same (3919060), it's a GM Service Replacement part (correct 68 grille styling, but no chrome). So it does appear that the 3919060 was changed to a replacement part at the end of the 1968 model year. That's why the 9/68 P&A shows 1967 and 1968 as both using the 3919060. Boy, they didn't waste any time in getting rid of that chrome did they!!!

And no, the P&A 26 doesn't show any kind of description. It shows Part Number, Group Number, Model where used (Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, etc...), Warehouse Code (where you could order it from) and the 3 layers of pricing:

"Suggested list" - what we as a walk-in customer could buy it at, and of course, the most expensive
"Suggested Trade" - what Resellers could buy it for, or, if you had a buddy in the parts department, what you could get it at if he liked you - middle of the road pricing
"Dealer Trade" - What dealers sold to each other for - the least expenive.

These are really cool books if you like to cry over how much (or little) things cost back then! For example, in the 1971 P&A 26, the price for the 3919060 is $10.75 (List) or $6.45 (reseller and dealer)!

Ed

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 25, 2006, 03:54:46 AM »
Steve,

The 3919060 is the part number for the 68 (chrome) center section so I'm not sure why Rich would state that it was a "black only". It would make more sense that GM would discontinue the 68 center section and just use the 67 on both years (as it was a LOT less expensive to produce), but the parts book doesn't show that. It shows just the opposite. The 1971 price schedule I have shows the 3919060 still available, as does the 1976 schedule and the 1980 schedule. I'm assuming (and maybe incorrectly) that this part number continued to have the chrome applied, but perhaps at some point GM discontinued the chrome and just went with all black. Does anyone out there have an NOS 3919060 that they purchased in the 80's? We need to know what it looks like.

Ed

3012
Originality / Re: Caps for 69 (68?) RS windshield washer bracket
« on: August 24, 2006, 03:52:24 AM »
The original Part Number of 3866096, that was in the ebay auction, is in my P&A 34 as:

Group 10.154

67 Chevelle - CAP, washer jar (protective)

And you needed 2 of them...

Ed

3013
Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 24, 2006, 03:09:10 AM »
Steve,

Probably just a typo because on the next page, the 69 (left and right) Outer Covers are shown as the correct P/N's, 3949599 and 3949600.

But another interesting item... I just picked up a September, 1968 X691A "Corvair and Camaro Preliminary Parts Catalog" for Canada (which is the exact same publish date as the P&A 34) that lists the "new" part numbers for the 1969 Corvair and Camaro. It shows Group 2.770 "Cover, Headlamp Retracting" as P/N's 3958004 and 3958003 for the 69 Outer Covers! Same publish date, different part numbers!! Just goes to show you how one hand wasn't paying attention to the other!!

OR... Did the Canadian 69 RS Camaro's come with different covers than US cars??? I can see something like that happening since their laws were different than the US. Maybe they didn't require the slots? JOHN????

Ed

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 24, 2006, 02:21:19 AM »
Steve,

Yes, the Left Hand covers are still separate part numbers (3898135 and 3919063), but what's really interesting, it shows the Right Hand cover (3919064) as being used on 67-69!! Boy, someone sure screwed up!!

Ed

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: August 24, 2006, 02:01:24 AM »
Steve,

No problem...

The P&A shows the following:

Group 1.266

67-68 Camaro w/R.S. - center - 3919060

HOWEVER!!! It also shows the following:

(Same Group)

67 Camaro w/R.S. - Grille Assy, rad. - 3905745
68 Camaro w/R.S. - Grille Assy, rad. - 3929281

Since the upper and lower parts were the same for both years, the only difference would have been the center section, hence the part number difference between the 67 and 68 "Grille Assy". Just WHY they list the center section as being the same is probably because by the time my P&A was published (September, 1968), the 67 center section had been discontinued and they just used the 68 center section as a replacement. That happened a lot back then, so that's my theory.

EDIT: I just did a little more digging and sure enough, my 1971 P&A 26 (Dealer Parts and Accessories Price Schedule) DOESN'T list the 67 center section (3921841). It DOES list the 68 center section (3919060) so my above theory looks good.

Ed

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