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Restoration / Re: Water leak - need help
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:24:21 AM »
Although it could be other things, more than likely you have a water leak at the base of the windshield. After all these years, the dash rusts away in the corners and the windshield seal get brittle. These two things will allow water to leak in under certain conditions with rain and washing your car being two of the most common. The only way to tell is to pull the chrome from the windshield and examine your dash.


Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 SS 396 ?
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:21:07 AM »
HERE'S where he got that information...


Decoding/Numbers / Re: RE: 1969 Z28 (The Real Thing ?)
« on: September 13, 2006, 12:20:18 AM »
69 production went from late August, 1968 through early November, 1969. Post pictures of the Trim Tag and the VIN and we can give you more help.



To answer your questions I've included a couple of pictures that might help. My covers are original and have never been rechromed, so they look a little battle worn! Note the original "flash chrome" process that's worn off and the "dents" in the cover from the drippers being welded on.

1. There are two stands on each cover. The drivers side rear spark plug wire stand is in front of the rear mounting bolt so it doesn't hit the wiper motor when removing. (See the top picture).
2. No "slant" on the Camaro big block covers, but a "dimple" on the driver side (rear) for rocker arm clearance instead. The "slant" was a Corvette thing (See the top picture).
3. Not sure about this one since my retainers and screws have been replaced, but I believe the "TR" screws are not chrome plated, but the retainers are. JohnZ will have to answer this one for you.

Edit: The big block valve cover report is now done so I've added the LINK.


Top picture is of my drivers side cover... (You can see the rear spark plug wire stand in front of the rear mounting bolt and the "dimple" at the end of the cover to the very right of the picture.)

Second picture is of my passengers side cover... (Not the original oil filler cap, sorry to say!) Note the wear spots where the chrome has worn off.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Pace Car Yes/No
« on: September 10, 2006, 07:30:38 PM »
You need to contact THESE GUYS. They can give more info than I, but from what I see so far, everything looks good for a Pacer. It "may" even be an actual Indy 500 car since the Van Nuys assembly code (L181A), and the assembly date (04C) matches up perfectly! Send them an email and let us know...

Oh yeah, what's the VIN?


Originality / Re: 68 Radio
« on: September 09, 2006, 10:13:03 PM »

AM's usually range from less then $20.00 for junk all the way up to $200.00 or more for excellent examples. AM/FM's run from $300.00 for junk, up to greater than $800.00 for excellent examples. It all depends on how much you're willing to pay, and for what kind of condition.

Add me to the list of the millions of folks looking for a 68 AM/FM...


Originality / Re: Questions on 68 RS SS 396 smog set-up
« on: September 09, 2006, 06:47:23 PM »
All the tubes should basically be the same with the exception of the bends and length. More than likely you could probably get any year tube to fit any other year big block with slight modifications as required for clearance issues. If you have some in storage, I would give it a shot! What have you got to loose...


Originality / Re: Questions on 68 RS SS 396 smog set-up
« on: September 09, 2006, 05:56:58 PM »
If you meant the SMOG TUBES, the answer is no. Apparently the A/C tubes are different than the non-A/C tubes, so I was wrong in my replay above.


Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: September 09, 2006, 04:37:03 PM »
Les' is also a Norwood car and it's currently FOR SALE ON EBAY!! WHY Les, WHY WHY WHY?????


Originality / Re: Questions on 68 RS SS 396 smog set-up
« on: September 09, 2006, 04:35:25 PM »
1. Yes, 879 and 178 are the correct exhaust manifolds.

2. I don't believe the A/C made a difference on the smog equipment, but talk to Les (mr396). His car's currently for sale on ebay by the way, so HERE'S A LINK for you to look at.

3. Yes, some of the parts like the pump are date coded. The upper bracket is also a 1968 big block only part (see the pictures) becuase the diverter mounts to it.


Decoding/Numbers / Re: Bellhousing/flywheel/clutch for 67SS/RS350
« on: September 09, 2006, 04:53:51 AM »

Flywheels are hard to nail down since there were so many part numbers and casting numbers used over the years. Even the P&A is unreliable since it would only list the "current" Part Number (which for my September, 1968 P&A was 3889694).

Here's a bit more on the 3889694 flywheel on the NCRS WEB SITE. The only thing I can find on the 3998281 is on the TEAM CAMARO WEB SITE and Jonesy shows it as a 69 part.

See what I mean? Flywheels are hard to get right!!



Originality / Re: 68 Radio
« on: September 09, 2006, 04:33:55 AM »

Are the lenses of the 67/68 Camaro AM radios tinted or not? (By the way, I still owe you that Muncie Reverse Rod you asked for!!! Someday I'll get it to you!)



Research Topics & Reports / Re: 68 RS center grille
« on: September 09, 2006, 04:25:08 AM »

In the WHEELCOVER THREAD you mentioned the Ray Miller book, "Camaro! Chevy's Classy Chassis" and brought up a good point regarding the timeline of that book. April of 1981 was the first printing, which means that the research and pictures were done in 1980 and perhaps even earlier. This means that the 68's referenced were approximately 12 years old. I looked at the RS Grilles of the two cars that still had the original California black plates, and noted the color of the grille -vs- the license plate number. Here's what I got:

License VIW 548 (Page 98 through 105) Black Grille (appears to be chromed on page 100 but I believe that to be due to the lighting.)
License WBH 171 (Page 96) Black Grille

Both of these cars are "San Diego County" cars (City Chevrolet, located in San Diego, and Weseloh Chevrolet, Located in Carlsbad), and going by the License Plate Numbers, both of these cars are late 68 models as well. "V" and "W" License Plates were mid 68 releases for San Diego County. (My first 68, which I bought in February 1976 from the original owner, was also a "W" issue and it was a June (Los Angeles) built car. And now that I think of it, this car (also a SS/RS) had the black grille because I remember other 68 RS owners telling me it was wrong at the time!!

Anyway, it's staring to appear that the late 68 cars may have received the black grille. Of course, either or both of these cars in the book may have had their grilles changed at some point, so this data could be skewed. But if not, it's just more evidence to support Steve's theory.

Oh yeah, my current car is also a Los Angeles built car, built in 05D. Les? Steve? Are your cars Norwood or Los Angeles?


Restoration / Re: starter motor for 1967 rs/ss 350 manual trans
« on: September 06, 2006, 06:46:37 PM »
It's engraved in the case itself, along with the date code and other information.


Decoding/Numbers / Re: Bellhousing/flywheel/clutch for 67SS/RS350
« on: September 05, 2006, 06:45:17 PM »

yes, the 67 350 used the 11" clutch with the 621 bell housing. The 3791021 flywheel is for the 10.5" clutch though. You need the P/N 3889694 11" flywheel.


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