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In case you haven't been following the "PEBBLE-GRAIN" THREAD because it doesn't apply to you, I've started one for you owners of 69 Camaro smooth steering wheels!

We now know the smooth wheel was used at least from 02B on, but now I need to know if it was used any earlier. If you have an original 69 Camaro with the smooth steering wheel, please post. (NOTE: The original "pebble-graining" wore off fairly quickly, so a VERY close inspection of the wheel may be required.) I'll need the following information:

1. Type of car (base, RS, SS, Z28, COPO, etc...)
2. VIN of the car
3. Build date on the Trim Tag (12A, 03B, 05D, etc...)
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag (712, 718, 722, etc...)
5. If the car has the "standard Interior", does it have the Z23 option

Thanks gents (and ladies)!

Ed

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Okay boys and girls, the steering wheel report is coming along fine, but we've run into a snag and need your help.

According to a note in the September, 1968 P&A X691A (see attached), all 69 Camaro SS, RS, Z23, Z87 (see note 1 below) and N30 (see note 2 below) cars received a "Deluxe Wheel". All other cars received the "Standard Wheel". The problem is that the note doesn't seem to follow actual observed usages!

It's believed that the "Deluxe" wheel is the steering wheel with the "pebble-graining" between the two grooves cut into the perimeter of the wheel (see example below). "Standard" wheels (and later service replacements) were smooth in this area.

So, if you own an original 1969 Camaro, we would appreciate the following information:

1. Type of car (base, RS, SS, Z28, COPO, etc...)
2. VIN of the car
3. Build date on the Trim Tag (12A, 03B, 05D, etc...)
4. Interior code on the Trim Tag (712, 718, 722, etc...)
5. If the car has the "standard Interior", does it have the Z23 option
6. Type of steering wheel (Standard "smooth" or Deluxe "pebble-grained") NOTE: The original "pebble-graining" wore off fairly quickly, so a VERY close inspection of the wheel may be required.

Note 1 - Although the note doesn't specifically reference the Z87 Custom Deluxe interior, the Z23 Interior Style Trim Group (referred to in the note as the Interior Decor Package), was included in the Z87 option, therefore the Deluxe wheel would also be used in Z87 cars.

Note 2 - The N30 "Deluxe Steering Wheel" never made it into production for the 1969 model year, so the note may not be completely accurate.

If you want to contact me off fourm or have any questions, please feel free to email me at bertfam@verizon.net

Thanks in advance...
Ed


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Test Drive / Test of the picture upload problem
« on: July 26, 2007, 01:25:47 AM »
Just testing to see if uploads are having problems.

Disregard...

Ed



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1968 - Orphans / 8N385170 396/325 L35 Engine
« on: July 11, 2007, 04:21:41 PM »
ebay auction 260135531741

Ed

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General Discussion / Not Camaro, but interesting none the less
« on: June 09, 2007, 06:35:32 PM »
This Friday (6-15-07) at noon, Tulsa time, they unearth the Plymouth Belvedere they burried 50 years ago in a time capsule. Ought to be interesting...

HERE'S THE LINK

Ed

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Restoration / "Classic Car" Body shops in the Temecula/Murrieta area?
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:27:40 PM »
Guys my daughter was in a slight fender bender a few weeks ago (she got rear ended), and the insurance company body shops won't touch the car. I guess if they can't unbolt the damaged panel and bolt in a new one, they won't touch it! I actually got pissed at one guy and asked him if he even knew what a hammer and dolly was!! He wasn't amused...

Anyway, the car (1969 Corvair Convertible) didn't receive much damage (they were only going 20-25 MPH), but the rear bumper got tweeked and the lower rear body panel got pushed in a bit, so it needs to be hammered back out. Nothing major at all.

Anyone know of any good "classic car" body shops in or around the Temecula/Murrieta (California) area?

Thanks
Ed

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Decoding/Numbers / Interesting date on the Trim Tag
« on: July 07, 2006, 12:08:33 AM »
Okay guys, I realize it's not Camaro related, but I figured the CRG might be interested in this anyway...

I just purchased a 69 Corvair Monza Convertible (1 of only 521 manufactured) and the trim tag has me stumped! Note the "12AD" assembly date!! Okay, so what gives???

Any ideas?

Ed


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Is it me, or is anyone else having (for want of a better word) "slowdowns" when changing pages or going to and from different threads? Sometimes I click and it goes right in, and other times it takes up to a minute before the page changes. I'm running fiber optics (5mb) so I KNOW it's not my connection speed! And it doesn't happen on other forums. Just this one.

?????

Ed

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