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Decoding/Numbers / 1969 Z28 124379N635021

« on: March 04, 2021, 03:24:01 PM »

I was asked if i could post here to see if the TT and VIN are legit on this 69 Z28. Thanks.

https://www.streetsideclassics.com/vehicles/6316-cha/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28

https://www.camaros.net/threads/thoughts.480469/#post-1783266782

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Garage Talk / Re: Is this the end of GM?

« on: February 18, 2021, 05:32:22 PM »

Before this all turns sideways this has NOTHING to do with 1967-8-9 Camaros.

You wont be driving/repairing ANY internal combustion powered car, period. There, I fixed it.

LOL, I can tell you with some of the headaches my Holley Street Avenger carb has given me that might be a good thing.

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Garage Talk / Re: Is this the end of GM?

« on: February 18, 2021, 02:13:23 PM »

Before this all turns sideways this has NOTHING to do with 1967-8-9 Camaros.

If you can't get fuel or parts, you won't be driving (or repairing) your '67-69 Camaros...

Then you will then just have to convert it to a 450V

https://electrek.co/2019/11/05/electric-1969-chevrolet-camar-new-plug-play-ev-conversion-kit/

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Garage Talk / Re: Is this the end of GM?

« on: February 16, 2021, 08:23:11 PM »

If GM's quality does not improve and that includes any EV they plan on making will they even survive to 2035?

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Decoding/Numbers / Another Black 69 Z28

« on: February 12, 2021, 09:12:06 PM »

There sure seems to be a rash of black  69 Z28's popping up lately. Thoughts on this one?

Looks like 10D car with late September DZ block.

The air cleaner seal is not installed correctly that's for sure.

VIN : 124379N703782

https://www.webeautos.com/details-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28_rs-used-124379n703782.html

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Decoding/Numbers / Trim Tag missing numbers

« on: February 06, 2021, 03:03:53 AM »

I don't think I have seen a trim tag like this before. Missing digits 6,4,3 and 9.

That headliner maybe new but it needs some work still.




124379N579766

http://www.maplemotors.com/inventory/3448/detail.php

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28

« on: January 30, 2021, 04:47:50 PM »

I give a lot of credit for Design Drive Motors going the extra mile and seeking Jerry's opinion on this Camaro and posting it for all to see. Pleased to hear that it is a true Z but unfortunate that someone in it's past did what they did to the trim tag. Not the end of the world like Jerry said. I am sure the owner has mixed feelings about what to do next, i.e. go out to see if the original tag can be found or just leave it alone. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

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Garage Talk / Re: Muscle Car Museum Closing

« on: January 23, 2021, 05:49:53 PM »

Crazy day!

I could not believe the prices on some of these cars plus factoring in the buyers premium. Safe to say Mr. Treworgy hit the jackpot. Good for him... only in America!

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28

« on: January 21, 2021, 10:59:33 PM »

$15,000 for (a black 10-10 ??) Z28 in 2008 was cheap. I wish I would have seen this then. I was looking at a garnet red RSZ28 in 2004 and he wanted $42,000.

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General Discussion / Re: Mecum Kissimmee Auction

« on: January 19, 2021, 03:35:30 PM »

Auctions, the 2nd worst place to buy a classic car right after dealers. I sure would like to know what percentage of these vehicles are actually purchased by dealers versus enthusiasts or car collectors? 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28

« on: January 19, 2021, 12:02:36 AM »

See link below for the crayon code info. It should be X 7 for this Camaro to match the trim tag X-77 code.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1590.0

I looked at the pictures you provided but nothing really stands out definitively to me. Did you try and remove the inner door panels. Sometimes during repaints they do not fully cover some of the inner areas of the door. Another place to look is under the front dash.  You may find hints of original paint over spray. You will need to shine a light up there to see properly.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28

« on: January 18, 2021, 06:24:44 PM »

Thanks guys, I will see if I can find any other evidence on the car as well, suggestions on where to look? 

-behind the rear passenger seat back. May even see X7 crayon marking on passenger side.
-inside of door panel behind the door cards (front and back).
-inside of trunk, under the rear deck shelf.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...a bit inaccurate

« on: January 18, 2021, 03:40:44 PM »

.....and NV. I thought this Camaro looked familiar. Pawn Stars flip.

https://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=76470

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28

« on: January 18, 2021, 03:35:07 PM »

I am pleased to see the selling representative wanting to do the right thing here and get to the bottom of the issue.

I suggest if you can find evidence of a color change that could help. Other than that, if evidence does not surface and the validity of the trim tag is in question it would warrant a revision to the selling description. It is too bad that the sins of the past can catch up on us now as 10-10 cars do bring a premium.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro body tag?

« on: December 18, 2020, 08:10:24 PM »

Like I said, I'm not going to name names. However, a simple search will reveal lots of information.

It's also amazing how the descriptions of these cars has changed over the last few years. It used to be "This original numbers matching...". And now it's "We believe this to be a numbers matching..." or "It appears to us to be a numbers matching...", etc...

Hiding behind a consignor isn't anything new, but it's become an even more of a "DO YOUR HOMEWORK" world lately.

Ed

I would have to imagine that there is a higher percentage of people who don't do their homework when buying such cars and that is what these dealers rely on or else they would not be in business. For those that do their homework and the car does check out now they are faced with the added mark up these dealers charge. Either way at least for me I don't like dealing with used car sales people.