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Originality / Re: 3932386 Cast on I 20 8 and Stamped V0103DZ
« on: January 15, 2022, 11:12:02 PM »
Clearly a restamp.

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N608287 DZ block on facebook marketplace
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:21:01 PM »
The stamp looked OK to me, but I'm pretty sure someone ground the VIN off the deck to the left of the build date stamp. 

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N608287 DZ block on facebook marketplace
« on: September 29, 2021, 02:58:08 PM »
Could be James. Those are definitely circular grinder marks on the left side of the pad.

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N608287 DZ block on facebook marketplace
« on: September 28, 2021, 02:12:01 PM »
Gone already. That was fast.

Date stamp and VIN seem to match up. This would have been about 1000 cars from mine.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Letter for month code DZ block
« on: September 28, 2021, 02:02:21 PM »
I think it's a restamp as the letter stamp appears to be deeper and more pronounced than all the other fonts and looks like it was added after the fact. Perhaps someone with too much knowledge thought they would try to Julian date the block with a letter stamp for the corresponding month. Too much knowledge perhaps (lol).

Also unclear as the pads painted and the broch marks are not visible.

General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 27, 2021, 07:10:20 PM »
Yup...silver with blue on blue sounds plenty cool to me.  8)

If you get it, why not just build an LT1 for it and enjoy it before you flip it. The 350 packs much better HP and torque than a 302. Truth be known, the 302's are weak out of the whole and don't pack much torque. It's the mystique that surrounds the 302 and the sounds that make them cool when they are buzzed north of 7K, but that's where they were vulnerable to spitting out rods or dropping a valve. In fact, a modern 355 with some good rods and some decent heads will destroy most 302's.

Build a nice 350 or a stroker for it maybe and make it look perfectly stock. That works real nice IMO.

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: September 27, 2021, 05:59:15 PM »
You need a pair of those plaid pants to go with the car!

LOL...I would have totally done that if it had of went to MCACN  ;D

BTW...does anyone know what that Security Lock option was that's noted on the bottom of the dealer invoice for $19.95. I have never seen that option listed anywhere and would think it was something the dealer sold? Too early for a steering wheel lock and didn't say wheels locks?

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: September 27, 2021, 05:49:42 PM »
There are at least 3 Copo cars known to have been ordered with V75. I would reason to think this option would have been thoroughly sought out & tested for traction control given how many cars were purposely bought for drag racing back in the day?

This Z/28 was shown a few weeks ago where it earned a top 5 pick with Best Muscle Car privileges the first time out. The best part of the show for me was the liquid tire chain discussions (had a NOS case of cans in the trunk thanks to Bruce) and of course the interior, which was a hit with so many. A few people had complimented how the restoration was totally on point for Day 2 and that it really fit the theme I was after. I found a lot of comfort in that, and the fact that even the local purists appreciated the way in which it was restored. A couple even kneeled down to peek under the car and came up commenting on the factory-correct paint application of the underside, as well as how correct the components were on the tricked-out rear suspension.

Here are a few more pics now that the car is finished up. Keep in mind that it varies from the purist side of things as I wasn't going for the factory-correct driveline with this car, although I do have nearly everything to reinstate the stock Z/28 build should I change my preferences on that later. Piled up in my shop here, I have the original console w/ gauges, a rebuilt 3138 shifter, a full set of YH rallies with NOS caps and rings, and a stock DZ302 (dated V0214DZ) engine sitting off to the side that is 100% complete now. It's ready to swap into the car if I should tire of the current engine, but doubt that will be anytime soon (unless I decide to move the car along in its stock configuration).

Most of the interior is completely correct for this car except the NOS Super Shifter added for the period fit. I also forgot to install the moniker emblems on the door those will be installed whenever those panels come back off (lol). I did add a copy of the original V75 canister instructions and taped them to the deck lid during the show. The car as it sits is a total blast to drive and cruises really well at highway speeds in its current configuration. I should mention that it pulls extremely hard all the way through 7500 rpm and is not for the faint of heart. Finally, I have added a copy of the original invoice for this car which shows its original build details at the bottom of this post. :-)

For any other information on the car, its build, or the details of its prior ownership, there is a full build thread on the sYc site that is fast approaching 230,000 views to date That thread offers full transparency of the cars build from the restoration of the body, the parts used to restore it, and some interesting anecdotes shared by previous caretakers as well as the car's original owner. As an interesting side note, this has been the quickest restoration I have ever performed (12-13 months) but definitely the most fun I have ever had restoring a Camaro (my fourth full restoration of a Z/28). Enjoy!

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 02, 2021, 03:51:57 PM »'s been a year and the car is almost done now. Just need to finish fitting and installing the deluxe door panels and things are pretty much a wrap on a full frame-off restoration. Took about a year to do this one, and it turned out great with the Day 2 personality that it wears once again.

Original Owner with Z/28 at Minot AFB (Circa 1969/1970)

The car as it nears completion at my place just a couple of weeks ago.

Restoration / Re: 1969 deluxe door panel problems
« on: August 02, 2021, 03:40:31 PM »
Having fir with mine and plan to trim the foam blocks and heat up the panels to get them fitting this week. With upper 80 to 90 degree temps, I'll leave these outside for a day without any fear of them self-igniting. 

Hope to hear you are now winning with your fitment Joe?

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 01, 2020, 04:53:11 PM »
 ;D That provided a good chuckle for my Saturday AM. Glad to see you're still buddies after 50 years! Congrats

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 01, 2020, 12:40:01 PM »
And for entertainment purposes, here are the SMS swatches held up against the dirty old covers. The A & C swatches are the closest matches I have seen yet. Secondly, the SMS HT fabric is much heavier version than the Al Knoch material. I think it's a better match overall.

The HT material is very close, and is a nice heavy weight fabric.

Their yellow vinyl is more correct and a closer color match, but the grain is more open/wide than the stock Madrid.

Love/Hate (I cannot decide) lol

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 01, 2020, 12:34:49 PM »
Thanks Joe. Been noodling around here early this morning (couldn't sleep) and have found mention of a couple 02B cars being the earliest seen with 714. I have the original head rests from this car and the posts are stamped 12-9-69-2 which I found kind of interesting. Still trying to learn more about this love it or hate it interior code. As you know the options out there for interior restoration are varied. Last we talked I made mention that I received the samples from Al Knoch, well this week I received the other samples from SMS which are way better. Sample pics below versus color chip match in dealer catalog..

Yellow headrest posts from this 02D car.

Al Knoch samples. The yellow vinyl is hard to capture in this photo, but is more Canary Yellow with stark contrast (Darker).

SMS Samples. This is again hard to capture in a photo, but here the vinyl is a far better match to original. Seen better below.

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 01, 2020, 11:23:32 AM »
So here's a question for those of you in the know on 714 Yellow becoming an optional color for custom interiors?

I have one of the dealer sales catalogs with the sample swatches of vinyl, interior fabrics and paint colors. Last year I was told that the orange and yellow fabric is missing from many of them as it was a mid year addition to the options list and that it was not available until half way though the production year. With that being said, can anyone tell me when the first cars began showing up with 714 options and when did GM introduce this interior color to the dealers as an available option? Most of the yellow cars I am now taking note of appear to have later trim tags than this one and it's making me wonder what month this color actually came out or when the earliest cars were built with 714 interior? This one is an 02D build that shows it being shipped March 3rd of 69.

Thanks in advance...Graeme

Originality / Re: Factory V75 Liquid Tire Chain Z/28?
« on: August 01, 2020, 04:20:49 AM »
What makes it more unique now is recently finding the original dealer invoice and the fact it had some further options that made for it being a well loaded car.

NC8   Exhaust System; chambered 1,526 built
N33   Steering Wheel; Comfortilt    6,575 built   
N34   Steering Wheel; wood-grain  683 built
VE3   Bumper; special front, 12,650 built
V75   Tire Chain; liquid   188 built
ZK3   Belts; Custom Deluxe 18,760 built
ZL2   Hood; special ducted   10,026 built

It had some neat stuff on it and I am working diligently to replace any missing parts as the restoration is already underway.    

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