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General Discussion / Re: LED Bulbs Revisited
« on: June 25, 2018, 06:04:14 PM »
I found the original number which is needed to do any cross referencing.

In case anyone needs it....

1816 is the original bulb.  It crosses over to a BA9  LED bulb.

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General Discussion / Re: LED Bulbs Revisited
« on: June 25, 2018, 02:47:31 AM »
Even if the wrong incandescent bulb is used on the inside tail light of a non RS 69 Camaro it lights up too brightly and will mask the brake light effect of the outside light.  I still see this quite often today.

My father is a big fan of LED and has all his vehicles converted.  He has sort of gotten me toward that path but I haven't done all the cars 100%.   I convert the inside dome lights to LED on all the cars because I've found the regular bulbs will cook the plastic over time with too much heat.  When I tried LED's in the tail lights of our RS Z I didn't really like it.   Looked okay with parking lights on, but with brakes or turn signals it actually turned more orange than red and had this weird look, brand new lenses too.  LED's too bright I guess so I took them back out.  I will say with the LED's in the dome, the rear console, and both under dash lights, and white interior, it's blinding at night.
   I haven't done the dashes on my stuff but my father does.  Have to get the dimmable versions for the dimmer to work.  When I'm driving his I have to dim them down, just too daggum bright for me and makes it more difficult for me to focus on the dark road in front of me.  So I don't do the dashes on my own stuff.

However I wouldn't mind some LED's down in the console gauges.  If I remember right those were odd sized single terminal.  Anyone know that number off hand?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad
« on: June 21, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »
Neat car, and from what I can see the broadcast sheet shows it's a Z/28.  A plus for a Van Nuys car.  Too bad the owner is muddying the waters with all the mumbo jumbo that is really degrading the car.  A real Z in respectable shape with a real DZ engine in it wouldn't be that hard to sell if the owner would just come back down to reality.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 20, 2018, 02:36:27 AM »
That's interesting James, because my 12D Norwood has the bracket, and Larry's 4C Norwood has the bracket.  Seems we have this lapse or inconsistency.   Then there is the question of how many were a grey phosphate color and how many were black, because the books list both correct.   We can break this down to the point of driving people nuts  ;D

Another question James,   since yours doesn't have the heater hose bracket, is the negative batter cable clip up there in that hole?  Because your battery cable is up pretty high.

On mine, I guess since the hose bracket is there,  the battery cable clip is toward the outside closer to the alternator pulley.  Most of the pics I'm seeing the battery cable clip is outside like mine, even the ones without the heater hose bracket.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 19, 2018, 02:34:34 PM »
Yep that's Larry's, thanks James.  I see the car off and on when he brings it up to the cruise.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 18, 2018, 06:36:46 PM »
I have more pics of survivor 69 Z's that I can't find at the moment, and the one I did find I can't post.  But it's one of Larry Christensen's cars.  Built in Norwood in April and has the clamp.    That's the latest date I've found so far in my collection of survivors.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 18, 2018, 02:05:36 PM »
There are dozens of changes throughout the model year on 69 alone.   I still don't think there is sufficient data on a lot of it.  May never be as good examples dry up.  I'm sure they do the best they can with what they have to work with.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 18, 2018, 03:21:14 AM »
Here's an April built survivor with the clamp from our local cruise.   But again so far April seems to be the cutoff.


Aaa, file too big.


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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 18, 2018, 03:03:42 AM »
Larry I see what you are talking about with the Hot rod pic. That must be pretty early, no 302 sticker.

Also interesting is the digilite option, and was fitted with Bill Thomas headers with a provision for the smog tubes. Wish they would have had those from the factory. I wonder how much of a prototype that car was?

That's an early car from Van Nuys, but don't know how early.  I'm pretty sure it's before Dec 68 though.  It's a Hugger Orange White Stripe Z with black deluxe interior, spoilers, and VE3 bumper.  John Dianna drove that car and was a test bed for Hot Rod.   They installed the headers and other misc. stuff after the fact.   But yeah you can clearly see the heater hose clamp on that one.  I have a pic of another early one (Nov I think) from Norwood that also has the clamp.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 17, 2018, 11:18:51 PM »
So far it seems we have examples of factory installed heater hose clamps up through April production?  Is that what I'm reading?

I have a few vintage pics of Z's and 350's that have A.I.R. with the heater hose clamp, so I'll assume these all must be pre April 69 production.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:34:33 PM »
Here's a vintage photo from the hot rod test car, clearly shows the heater hose bracket.  See if this works.....


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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:27:13 PM »
The metal clip was most certainly factory equipped with cars that didn't have AC.

There are quite a few original 69 Z photos floating around from road tests back in the day that clearly show the heater hose clamp, metal clip or how ever it's referred to.


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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 17, 2018, 01:40:58 PM »
Looks like it might also have the rubber tie holding the wires. 

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 16, 2018, 10:28:30 PM »
I have to correct and add to what I said after reading Bullitt's question again.  I had to go out and look at the car.  It does have a rubber tie but it's not right by the heater hose bracket as Bullitt asked the question.  Mine is further down the heater hose and not only holding the battery cable, but the alternator wire harness is also held in with it.

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Restoration / Re: Heater hoses
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:31:36 PM »
Yes it has a rubber tie there as well.  It's holding the negative battery cable that runs over to the thermostat housing.

My car being an RS is plum full of those rubber ties. They went nuts with them holding all those vacuum hoses up. 

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