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General Discussion / Re: Anybody buy from
« on: Today at 10:11:17 PM »
.  I have no idea what the state(s) did, or were supposed to do, with unsold plates back then or now,

Me neither, but if states are supposed to destroy them, they sure haven't been doing it from what I've seen.  Every big swap meet I attend there is always at least one vendor selling thousands of original plates from all states that go back into the 1930's...LOL

General Discussion / Re: Camaro Numbers by State
« on: Today at 01:27:24 PM »
Another idea for original delivery, is if each person that has  a NCRS report or an original protect-o-plate stated the original city and state, that may paint a little bit of a picture.

Unfortunately there is a pretty large vin gap with no information from NCRS (mine included) so there is quite a bit that would be missed using that method, I would think anyway.

General Discussion / Re: Camaro Numbers by State
« on: January 18, 2018, 06:23:58 PM »
Grew up in Cinci.  Friends and even relatives that worked at the Norwood plant and Fisher Body.  Throughout the 70's-80's and even 90's there was always a huge concentration of F-bodies around town.

Now living out here in AZ I'm not so sure any other state would have the concentration of classic cars in one place that we have here in AZ.  Seems most of California has moved over here too now. Tons of Norwood F-bodies out here, mine being one of them, and as far as I can tell, spent the majority of it's life out here.  My other F-body is a Van Nuys car.    Phoenix is a huge concentration of classics out here with no shortage of F-bodies.  I think as the people get older that own these cars, they eventually migrate West.   Year round cruising weather here, not to mention the biggest car auctions in the country is right here in Scottsdale, with at least seven different auctions going on the month of January.

Finding them all state by state might be a monumental task.  With privacy laws in most all states now, I doubt even the DMV could be of help.

Originality / Re: 69 Z28 carb fuel line bracket.
« on: January 18, 2018, 06:13:21 PM »
Im not sure if they figured out what month these got phased in. Maybe around May of 69?

the earliest I've seen anyone report on in our CRG discussions is around May or June '69...  even though the drawing shows it for late '68...   JohnZ responded to that (seeming) discrepancy in one of his posts on those threads, stating that the change didn't go into production at the drawing approvals, but at another point (and I can't recall the exact words he used so I won't try).. :)

Thanks, I figured it was sometime later in production.

My guess Gary is that it's there to help with vibrations, that could possibly fatigue and crack the fuel line over time.....maybe.   Don't know if there are a ton of reports of that happening but that might explain why it was phased in at a later date?   Other than that, I see no need for it.   Glad mine never got one, I'm not paying $300 for a piece like that.  If I had to, I'd go straight for the $25 repop because I see nothing wrong with it, other than a different stamp.  Don't think anyone looking at the car would care much about that.

Originality / Re: 69 Z28 carb fuel line bracket.
« on: January 18, 2018, 03:06:19 PM »
I think he is right it seems that only the later cars got this bracket.
Consider yourself lucky, since who ever bought the one on your car, only wasted a little money on it, could have been worse.

I've always thought it was the later built cars that got this bracket too, even though adds say correct for "all" Z/28 302's.    I don't see any remnants of one ever being on my Z/28, 12/68 build.

General Discussion / Re: Anybody buy from
« on: January 18, 2018, 02:57:07 PM »
Ohio is 25 years for Collector and 30 years for Historical.   Historical plates never have to be renewed.  That's how it was years ago anyway.  I still have a car here in Arizona with Historical Ohio plates, they don't use stickers and are registered to the car for a life time according to Ohio.  However AZ may not like that, lol.

Arizona is also 25 years and you can run a collector plate, which is called Antique I believe.  I used to run them but they charge an extra $15 over the regular plates every renewal, and they don't provide any significance at all, so I stopped using them.

As far as registering those custom made plates, Ohio didn't care as long as the numbers/letters weren't being used.  At the Columbus DMV they had a computer in the waiting room that you could run any sequence of numbers/letters for your county and see if it's been registered before you even ask about it.  Pretty cool I thought.   Dad ran the numbers, they weren't being used, so he had the plates made and brought them up there, they registered it no problem.

General Discussion / Re: Anybody buy from
« on: January 17, 2018, 03:42:42 PM »
My father bought some a few years back.  He bought custom 69 plates to say what he wanted.  They showed up and looked identical to his Ohio plates.   Not knowing if Ohio would register reproduction plates or not, he took them up to the DMV in Columbus.  They took one look at them and registered the car with them, no questions asked.  He ran them for years.

I'm sure states vary.  I was thinking of doing some Arizona plates, but not to register the car, just to run them on the front of the car, because Arizona doesn't require a front plate here, so I can run what I want up front.

Restoration / Re: 12 Bolt diff - vent hose
« on: January 11, 2018, 05:22:11 PM »
That's fantastic Austin, getting the kids involved.  Sounds like they are heading in the right direction  ;)

There aren't many car enthusiasts out there like us.  Funny I've gotten the same thing when shopping at Sams or Costco from people.   And buying that stuff in bulk makes it a real challenge to pack it all into that little trunk with a full size spare.  Sometimes a few items wind up in the back seat if we buy a lot.  But being so used to this type of thing, and growing up with it myself, it's just not a big deal really.
   My wife has been driving this thing back and forth to work for the past year and I'm really starting to think she's never letting go of it.   She's put more miles on it than I thought she would, and after that expensive rebuild I'm half tempted to pull that back out and save it, and shove something else in for the time being, lol.   I'm most definitely doing a TKO swap in it soon to cut down on some of the wear and tear.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: January 11, 2018, 02:23:46 PM »
I can only wish I had the kind of problems you guys are having.  At least I'd have something to go on, lol.   My car falls into that "no information available" category with NCRS. 

Restoration / Re: 12 Bolt diff - vent hose
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:15:48 PM »
Not to hijack this thread, but the 65 Mustang Fastback I purchased from my uncle had a boat hitch on it for many years, as it was used as a tow vehicle for a small fishing boat. I have since hauled lumber in it, with the seat folded down and lumber sticking out the trunk. I have had many guys look at me like I was crazy to do such a thing. ;D( Its not like I am strapping it onto the roof :o)

I used the lumber on the job I was on, and then cruised the car home the scenic way.

My cars are still multi purpose, I pick up my kids from school in them, and still run errands, and get jobs done. But I guess I don't consider them "show cars". If someone else owned them, maybe they would have nicer paint jobs and only haul car show placards?

Thats just not my style.... ;)

Funny stuff.  These are all we drive so we do the same, and get funny looks sometimes.  Just the other day I was at Home Depot with the Z and decided to buy some 8 foot long light bulbs for the shop.  They won't fit the trunk so I rolled down the window, stuck them in the back seat and had them poking out the passenger side of the car, lol.     Couple months back I had the trunk loaded down with 6 50 pound bags of mulch, it squats pretty good :)   Grocery shop in it every week.

General Discussion / Re: Plans for your camaro?
« on: January 11, 2018, 12:59:30 PM »
Yes I keep the tires covered.  It does help, but prolongs the inevitable it seems.  The heat is also brutal on tires (blacktop and sunshine 300 days a year)  Seems once the tires reach 4-5 years old they become an iffy proposition, both cars and trailers.

General Discussion / Re: Plans for your camaro?
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:49:31 PM »
Yeah it blew & i didnt even know it. I got home late at night and didn't even see it until the next morning.  :-[ The tire behind it had thrown its tread also, could have been ugly.  :o

Seems to be a common occurrence out here in the desert South West.  I blew a tire on my enclosed last year and didn't know it either.  Couldn't feel it or hear it.  Luckily had a nice guy flag me down and pointed to the tire.  I needed gas soon anyway so I hit an exit and pulled in.  It looked just like yours, lol.

Restoration / Re: 12 Bolt diff - vent hose
« on: January 10, 2018, 12:37:55 PM »
Did the car ever have a hitch on it?

I've seen a few cars like this before, where the owner would move the vent high, towing a little boat they would routinely back the car into the water on the boat ramps. 
Yea, that seems very logical or something like that but agree with Ed it did not come from the factory with that set-up. Man, I think of some of the stuff we did back then as it was just a car.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I meant it was factory.  Just that I've seen stuff like this added by owners, usually for the reason I mentioned.  Yeah funny to think back now what we used these cars for when new.  Big block Camaro would actually make a decent multi purpose family and tow vehicle for a small fishing boat.   My neighbor has an SCJ Torino he bought new, and used it to tow a camper back in the day.  He ordered the drag pack for the rear gears and oil cooler, makes a nice tow vehicle (he says)  LOL   It's still sitting in the garage with a hitch on it.

Restoration / Re: 12 Bolt diff - vent hose
« on: January 09, 2018, 08:39:22 PM »
Did the car ever have a hitch on it?

I've seen a few cars like this before, where the owner would move the vent high, towing a little boat they would routinely back the car into the water on the boat ramps. 

Maybe it's my computer screen, but looks like a 5 leaf spring pack to me.

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