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General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 28, 2021, 02:59:18 PM »
Ended up passing on the car, we just dont have the space to store another car in a million pieces while working on another project thats in a million pieces.

Yup...silver with blue on blue sounds plenty cool to me.  8)

If you get it, why not just build an LT1 for it and enjoy it before you flip it. The 350 packs much better HP and torque than a 302. Truth be known, the 302's are weak out of the whole and don't pack much torque. It's the mystique that surrounds the 302 and the sounds that make them cool when they are buzzed north of 7K, but that's where they were vulnerable to spitting out rods or dropping a valve. In fact, a modern 355 with some good rods and some decent heads will destroy most 302's.

Build a nice 350 or a stroker for it maybe and make it look perfectly stock. That works real nice IMO.

I would have built the 302 or a stout little 327 if we had picked it up. I have a built 70 LT1 in my 33 pickup that has put a lot of big blocks to shame at the drag strip, but I still prefer a 283/302/327 over a 350 and I would never build a 383, to me they are only good for a boat anchor. I have never liked them, I would build a 400 if I wanted a torque small block.

But we didnt get it, but now have the fire to get the current project done and sold to find the next project we can shove a 348 we have on the stand in.

General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 14, 2021, 03:37:13 PM »
well we are gonna make an offer and see what happens on this car. Would be a fun project to restore and drive for a bit. I have never been in a car with a 302, lots of hot 327s but no 302. In the long run though it would be a build and flip as we have thought about it last few days. So not really going to push to get it.

General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 12, 2021, 11:24:39 PM »
That is a pretty cool color combo PERSONALLY I would want it with the top- however if I were planning to resell I would leave the top off. It being much easier to install to make a sale rather than to remove to make a sale. 

Doing the car correctly will cost at least 20k in parts and materials - THAT'S
IF the original interior is in good shape minus carpet - the wheels are correctly dated, correct distributor, alternator, correctly dated carb, smog pump etc and there is no metal replacement needed. 
If it includes all the correctly dated $$ components and the car is solid plus you have 600-800 hours - and 20k additional for parts materials to out lay I wouldn't want to be much deeper in the car than 20k.

yeah the motor is pretty much missing everything correct. I didnt see any pulleys or top end. I know its missing the intake. The heads were the over the counter replacements. The interior pars are in decent shape. front seats just need covers. Was a console with gauges car. Dash had center clock and correct tach for its build date. Console could be save able. Someone in the early 70s stuck a bunch of toggle switches on the driver side up near the gauge area. Body was pretty solid, only rust issue I saw was at the top of the A post on both sides, but nothing was rotten through. Wheels are not correct. Does have 15x7's up front but then has a pair of 8's on the rear. At best its going to be a car that will look stock and correct, but its never gonna be a high point car its just not complete enough, but its not gone enough to go sticking random stuff on it.

At best it can be a car that will look original

General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 12, 2021, 08:10:26 PM »
As far the resto, it would be my grandfather and I doing the work on it.

That may be priceless.

yes and no, yes I always enjoy doing the work with him and its always great, but this would be car number 6 or 7 we have done.

If you do, keep the Cortez Silver paint code but change to black vinyl top and RED interior color.. :)

If we get the car, would keep the blue interior. The top has already had all the nubs ground off, but all the trim is still with the car, so would be a toss up if we put the vinyl top back on.

General Discussion / Re: Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 12, 2021, 05:59:36 PM »
With X33 on the tag, the car may have been built late enough for the 'con VIN' to be stamped on the side of the block. It would be on the rib alongside the oil filter. Often hard to read.

Unless you are handy with tools, most muscle car projects of this nature will cost more to restore than they are worth. The paint/trim on this one won't help. 

well the block is not the original motor to the car. The current owner bought the motor back in the 90's out of a Nova. Block is a Sept 68 casting date He bought this car minus the 302 back in the late 70's early 80's. As far the resto, it would be my grandfather and I doing the work on it. We did my both my 68 Chevy's so thats not really the big issue. Our issue getting this thing together and then be stuck with it. I know this car will never be a 6 figure car, but also dont want to jump into it when in the end its not worth more than a modified I6 car done to look like a Z/28

General Discussion / Questions about a 69 Z/28
« on: September 12, 2021, 02:56:03 AM »
So I went and looked a 69 that was claimed to be a Z/28 and after looking at it, I would say its a real one, but it had a few issues. The good was that it was a X33 car and the tag/rivets looked good. Main issue is of course the motor and trans. trans is long gone. Has a super T10, but the motor is a 69 302 motor that is in the window for correct casting date to cars build date. Problem is they have decked the block and the while the Z is legible, the D is almost gone and the rest of numbers are non existent. My main question is currently how big of hit is that in value on the cars currently? It does have the correct crank in it and pop up's. not sure on the rods. The 12 bolt and 4 leaf springs are still in the car and alot of the other stuff checks out as pointing to the real thing. Car is a odd color combo too. Is a factory Cortez Silver car, with dark blue vinyl top and dark blue std interior. Its a total project and in a million pieces, so trying to gauge what would be end value if restoring the car back close to how it came originally.

Garage Talk / Re: The other cars you all asked about...
« on: August 22, 2021, 10:14:54 PM »
Nice, and thanks for sharing! Btw, on 'Miss Taboo' (forgive my ignorance) is that a Buick or Mercury front grille?

Its a 54 Chevy grille. It has 14 extra teeth added over the stock 5 for 19 total.

General Discussion / Re: Neat Video of my 68 Camaro and C10
« on: August 21, 2021, 10:32:44 PM »
Very nice video work of your Camaro and truck!   I'd also LOVE to see some more on your granddad's trifive Chevys!!   (and your teal 33 as well).. :)

Very well done and the right sound track to go with it. I see another two blue vehicles in the stable, tell us more about those.

I made another post in garage talk here:

Garage Talk / The other cars you all asked about...
« on: August 21, 2021, 10:31:59 PM »
So on my post on the video on my twin 68's, others have asked to see a little more on the tri fives and the 33. So here is those photos.

Starting with the 33. Its an all original steel pickup. Pretty much a early 90s street rod. My grandfather built it right before I was born and I have grown up in the cab of the truck and its what got me hooked on old cars.

Then the 55 Chevy is a Bel Air 2 door Hardtop. Been with my grandparents nearly 50 years. We did a complete rotisserie restoration a few years ago at the house.

Then the last tri five is our 56 Chevy 150 named "Miss Taboo". Its a real deal early 60s custom. Was originally built between 1958-1960 and was on the cover of Rod & Custom back in 1960. The car has many many modifications. My grandparents owned it once in the 80s, sold it, and then we were able to buy it back in 2008 and then did a 5 year restoration on it, putting the car back to its early show glory.

General Discussion / Re: Neat Video of my 68 Camaro and C10
« on: August 21, 2021, 01:24:25 PM »
well the other rigs are my teal 1933 Ford pickup, its pretty much a Camaro in disguise. Has a 70 LT1 short block, then th350, 12 bolt out of a 68 Camaro, then it s painted that 3rd gen Camaro teal.

The other 2 are tri fives. The 55 is a Bel Air 2dr Hardtop my grandparents have owned for almost 50 years now. Its a factory blue/white car. Has a built 327 and T10 4 speed with a 65 Chevelle 12 bolt. The las tri five is a 56 150 2dr sedan thats an old custom show car from the early 60s. Its named "Miss Taboo" and has a huge list of mods. 57 Chrysler headlights, 60 Chrysler tail lights, 59 Impala bumpers and roll pans front and rear. They were then narrowed 3". 54 Chevy grille with 14 extra teeth for 19 total. It was on the cover of Rod and Custom back in 1960.

General Discussion / Re: Neat Video of my 68 Camaro and C10
« on: August 21, 2021, 04:49:25 AM »
+2 good video work. As a cameraman myself its nice to see he kept his framing along with smooth/steady movements.

yeah he had this little battery powered gimbal/gyro that kept the camera steady and fluid as he panned or was hanging out the door of hit truck.

General Discussion / Neat Video of my 68 Camaro and C10
« on: August 20, 2021, 05:26:02 PM »
So a couple weeks ago a younger guy came by the house to do some filming of my 68's. He is getting started with doing car videography and had yet to do classics, mainly tuners. So offered up the twins and we had a half a day of filming the cars. My grandfather helped out with driving one of the 68's. I think the results came out pretty good!

Garage Talk / Re: Big Red
« on: August 03, 2021, 01:22:27 AM »
I have always thought the car was cool, because its always neat to see a first gen spank Italian supercars in any form of racing.

Garage Talk / Re: H or I beam rods
« on: June 23, 2021, 01:12:59 PM »
Yeah I tend to stick with I beams for most of my builds, but I have not put together a serious race engine in awhile. I would run H beams for something I was going to be hammering on alot more.

General Discussion / Re: Fold down rear seat question
« on: June 23, 2021, 01:00:09 AM »
Yeah, another part made from Unobtainium.  I even looked into having once made on a 3D printer using the opposite side and asking if they could make a mirror image/opposite side print, but got nowhere.  I was also holding out hope that during my recent restoration the missing one would be found somewhere inside, but no luck.  Last one I saw for sale was both ends and the middle trim piece in very ratty condition on eBay, and as I recall it went for at least $150-$200 maybe even more.     

I could probably make the model file, mainly depends on what format the printer would need. I do 3d modeling for building construction, but making a mirror copy of a original piece should not be a problem. I'll have to go dig out my fold down I have stashed away as see if its missing either cap.

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