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I haven't been, and I'm less than 200 miles from Memphis.  Whether it's worth it, likely depends on what you're looking for - This is only the 2nd or 3rd yr for that show and in my opinion it's more 'commercial' than informative.   For me, I'd drive the 700 miles to Frederick, MD for the Camaro Nats (and the original 1st gen Camaros) before I'd drive the 3 hrs to Memphis.   

Are you going to drive your Pace Car the 900 miles each way?

To answer your original question, Have I ever traded a muscle car for another muscle car...   YES!   :)    I have done it twice, 1)  in 1976 I traded a blue/white '68 Z28 for the orange/black '69 Z28 I still own, and around 1981 I traded a '75 Monza (V8-4 sp) for a '70 Z28 (orange/white).  Never done a three way though not even a three anything!  :)

General Discussion / Re: Another Garnet Red Z28.. sorta....
« on: September 10, 2018, 09:28:04 PM »
Here is my sole problem with the original ad, and other such ads:

When the Z28 was 'born', it was born in order to run as a road racer in the Trans Am series (5 liter limit), thus the SHP 302, along with mandatory 4-speed, disk brakes, and HD suspension.    The '302' makes the early Z28, just as an all aluminum 427 'makes' a ZL1!   The 'Z28' emblem came long later simply to differentiate is as what it was .. a specially configured car for 'road racing' in a 5-liter limit category!

As far as I'm concerned, once a big block is installed, it is NO LONGER a '67-69 Z28~    If the seller had stated that the car was born as a Z28 in 1969, but the car now housed a big block engine as a drag racer/street racer/etc, it would not have bothered me, but one cannot have their cake and eat it too ... It's also misleading to people who don't know what a Z28 is... which would cause some to go away believing a '69 Z28 had an optional big block'!  WRONG!

Saying it's a '69 Z28 with a big block is a contradiction in terms, and that was why I optioned the title of my post with .... 'sorta'... 

1969 - Orphans / Re: 3959512, V03I9DZ, 124379N621880
« on: September 08, 2018, 03:30:04 AM »
If I had to vote based on that photo, I'd agree with you Chick!   and Yes it's easier looking at the real thing (rather than an image), but still difficult on that cast surface!

General Discussion / Re: Another Garnet Red Z28.. sorta....
« on: September 08, 2018, 03:26:56 AM »
AGreed Austin!    Putting a big block in a Z28 is exactly the same as installing Z28 badges on a BB car, OR for that matter putting Z28 badges on a VW~   I think I've seen all these situations at times in the past... so WHY does a seller 'advertise' the Z28 emblems on a BB Camaro??

Hmmmm..  maybe putting 427 badges on my Z28 would help it's appeal?    :)

General Discussion / Re: Another Garnet Red Z28.. sorta....
« on: September 07, 2018, 01:15:22 PM »
It was posted on the site yesterday or the day before.  The owner apparently wants to trade for a '57 2-door...   I posted here all that the seller posted including his contact info if you are interested... :)

1969 - Orphans / Re: 3959512, V03I9DZ, 124379N621880
« on: September 07, 2018, 12:32:55 PM »
Yes, the 'casting indentations' can confuse reading the stampings as well; sure was one of Chevys less sensible decisions to stamp a cast surface!  :)    (There's no way a LEO would spend even a fraction of the time that we do in trying to ascertain the correct VIN!)

Note:   621880 was likely produced on Thursday (30 March) and 624880  produced on Tues or Wed (4 or 5 April), so only 4 or so production days between..  so an engine appropriate for one is as appropriate for the other...

General Discussion / Another Garnet Red Z28.. sorta....
« on: September 06, 2018, 11:27:11 PM »
A post on the TriFive forum read as below:

I have a true X33 code Berger '69 Z/28... not a clone. 17,xxx original miles. As straight & solid as you'll find... no rust ever. Fresh paint in the original garnet red less than 3 months ago. New seats and carpet... all other interior components are original & in excellent condition (17,xxx original miles). 468ci Big Block dyno'd at 661 hp, TH400 trans, and a Dana 60 rear end. Very nicely mini-tubbed with ladder bar / coil over rear suspension, tubular front control arms, etc, etc, etc. Looking to trade for a NICE 2-door '57 210 or Bel Air...

It appears to be a very solid CAMARO.... but regardless of the codes, labels, original paperwork, mileage etc..  It's NOT a Z28 any longer...  not with a 468 ci BB in it...  it's just another drag car!   his email is:


1969 - Orphans / Re: 3959512, V03I9DZ, 124379N621880
« on: September 06, 2018, 01:07:17 PM »
I have to say, it appears more like a '4' to me as well....

General Discussion / Re: One Owner '69 Z/28
« on: September 05, 2018, 01:06:14 PM »
so WHERE did you guys see the pad stamp?    I didn't see it in the photos with the ad....??

General Discussion / Re: Are there any GM employees on this forum?
« on: September 05, 2018, 12:31:23 PM »
Many (most?) cemeteries are so tied into the whole funeral/burial thing, that they may have a monopoly on all the parts...  hopefully Tina has a choice, OR maybe just her mention of looking for a different monument company will cause the first company to reconsider... :)

General Discussion / Re: Halloween '69 Z28 RS FS on Craig's List
« on: September 05, 2018, 12:29:08 PM »
I am not going to buy it; I was just curious about it... :)    MarkB called me about it yesterday..  and we both agreed that it's sure a pretty color combination!   (Since we both have 'halloween cars').. :)

General Discussion / Halloween '69 Z28 RS FS on Craig's List
« on: September 05, 2018, 03:57:17 AM »

It's a most attention grabbing color.. :)     Does anyone know this car?  The ad has very little real details to ascertain anything...

General Discussion / Re: Are there any GM employees on this forum?
« on: September 05, 2018, 03:24:14 AM »
I don't get that...  all that they can 'etch' in stone would be an outline drawing; have you thought of having someone make a line art drawing from your photos and send the monument company just the line drawing?

General Discussion / Re: Are there any GM employees on this forum?
« on: September 04, 2018, 09:30:16 PM »

If you take off all references to 'Camaro and GM' from the diagram you provided the monument company, they probably wouldn't even know what car it was...  OR do you actually want them to include the words 'Camaro' or 'Chevrolet' on the monument?   I suspect the WORDS you requested are what is violating the monument company's policy (and perhaps GM?) rather than the picture of the Camaro(s)...


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