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General Discussion / Re: Another 69Z project for sale (orange this time)

« on: December 11, 2018, 12:46:47 AM »

This car is in/from the rust belt and is being advertised in Southern California. 
No one in their right mind in SoCal is going to buy and ship this crust bucket to the area of rust free cars. Especially a NOM project car with no provenance.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 Z28 Engine and Transmission Stamps

« on: November 28, 2018, 03:24:08 PM »

How can the gang stamp be misaligned the if it's real?

It's pretty obvious the MP suffix was hand stamped after the assembly plant and date was gang stamped.

May have something to do with it being an early and special engine build, especially being a smog variant.

Just goes to show you can't really judge a stamp on it's own. You need to have a data base of known good stamps in the same time period.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Z11 on CL

« on: November 27, 2018, 10:51:57 PM »

A couple of those pictures look like they were taken at a restoration shop. Probably had sticker shock!

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 Custom stripes

« on: November 08, 2018, 02:59:58 PM »

You are not going to find a vinyl stripe kit for the front header and fenders because the compound curves will not allow it to fit correctly.

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Originality / Re: 68 Camaro SS396 Blackout Tailpan

« on: November 06, 2018, 02:10:48 PM »

A google image search of the whole WWW is not going to be very helpful.
Over the years, there have been plenty of examples of original paint documented cars posted here, on TC, and on Yenkonet.
I would search those sites for BB original paint cars.
Here is one of those examples. This is an original documented car. Picture by a renowned collector and frequent contributor to these sites.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...altered/swapped tag

« on: November 05, 2018, 06:38:18 PM »

That tag has definitely been reattached. The question is why would somebody change out the tag to such a low option non popular color tag. The only reason I can think is the original tag went missing when it was removed to paint the firewall and any old replacement they could find was attached.

That front right fender looks to be a late 80's replacement from GM. By the time they stopped selling them, the fit was terrible. Look how poor it fits around the grill.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Seattle CL Trim tag X33

« on: November 04, 2018, 08:38:01 PM »

And it is a reproduction.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Checking out a car, someting seems odd

« on: October 29, 2018, 11:51:54 PM »

The picture resolution is not that great, but it looks like there is an out line of an AC suitcase and I see 3 screws and a plate on top of the cowl where the AC diverter would be installed.
Also, that single orange wire going through that big grommet (behind the ignition wires) is where the AC wiring harness should be. Non AC cars don't have that.

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General Discussion / Re: GM Source Document Identification ?

« on: October 29, 2018, 12:46:20 PM »

The sales brochure is pure crap. They own that, why not use a nice color version?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Checking out a car, someting seems odd

« on: October 29, 2018, 12:39:23 PM »

It went from Royal Plum to Resale Red. I would have preferred the Royal Plum.

Original tag shows AC, repro does not. Is the firewall near the heater core all hacked up?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Checking out a car, someting seems odd

« on: October 28, 2018, 11:05:46 PM »

VIN tag is fine, it's just installed wrong.

Both trim and VIN tags look to have been removed and reinstalled. Perhaps for a color change.

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General Discussion / Re: GM Source Document Identification ?

« on: October 28, 2018, 01:53:26 PM »

When I bought my Camaro many years (before CRG) ago I was looking for information and called GM Owner Relations Dept.
They offered to send me an information package on my new (to me) 1968 Camaro. A big thick package arrived and I was so excited that I was getting the history of my special car. Then I open the package and realized it was just a bunch of poorly photo copied crap. A lot of it not even GM original. Just photo copies of a sales brochure, AMA specs, and white book data.

Funny thing is it is exactly the same today, only you can download it from GM. Any one want to see a photo copy of a photo copy of a color brochure in black and and white with 3-ring binder holes punched in it? Here you go, thanks GM:

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/docs/gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits/Camaro/1968-Chevrolet-Camaro.pdf

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General Discussion / Re: Car built second week of January 1967 but POP sale date June 1968

« on: October 28, 2018, 01:29:12 PM »

It could be the SECOND owner POP? It would have been sent in the mail for the new owner or the dealership handling the warranty/transfer etc. to affix in the back of the book. They cut the original one out and trash it. It would have NO dynotab colored tape, just a metal plate. BOTH of my cars have second owner POP's. I guess it could be the 3rd 4th or whatever, if it sold that many times. But no tape means not original owner, I THINK. I am still learning. See picture of directions to do this change over. Look at me, thinking I know what I'm talking about    .. Danny

You have 2 second owner POP's? Can you post them for all to see?
I believe you can tell if it is 2nd or 3rd or 4th owner POP by the number under the bowtie.
Not sure I learned that on this site because there is very little information published in the POP section about second owner and Canadian POP's.
It may be known info and the CRG just hasn't expanded the information here yet.

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General Discussion / Re: Does this plate look legit, the numbers look crooked

« on: September 29, 2018, 11:41:18 AM »

There is a reason 1968 Camaro's are the best of the first generation and that is because no one fakes the trim tags and gets burned buying a fake car.
Nothing on that tag to tell you if it had any options besides the Island Teal paint and Houndstooth Black deluxe interior. Nice combo by the way.

The plates are stamped 2 times. I can't tell from your picture which stamping is crooked, or if it is the whole tag.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...big problems

« on: September 23, 2018, 12:23:38 PM »

Isn't that the same car as discussed in this thread?

https://www.camaros.net/forums/66-whats-worth/457121-1969-camaro-z28-lemans-blue-valuation.html