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General Discussion / Re: Whats better, trailer queens or street machines?

« on: October 12, 2011, 03:58:33 AM »

Your responses are very refreshing. I agree with all of you. Sometimes when reading these boards, I've been of the opinion that there are a bunch of trailer queens on here. You know, a bunch of folks who's appreciation for classic musclecars ends with a down-tick in their car's market value. Im glad to see thats not the case. And to clarify, that yenko I saw at the drag strip was maybe 25 years ago. I appreciate a copo's drag racing heritage. They're sought after today partially because guys like us took them to the track and drove the crap out of them back in the day. I've never had mine down the track, but I do appreciate the fact that it would do well. Thats what it was conceived for. I've put about 1,000 miles on my camaro since I got it running 2 years ago, occasionally to work on a friday but mostly on weekends if the weather's nice.   

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General Discussion / Re: Whats better, trailer queens or street machines?

« on: October 11, 2011, 04:44:59 PM »

I like the way ya'll think! The best camaros are the ones you see at the drag strip. I saw this 69 yenko camaro once (I heard it before I saw it), faded gold paint with slotted mags, only one seat and rubber all the way up to the body line behind the rear wheels. Open exhaust and it had this pin-on fiberglass hood, probably a little lighter than a dorito. Bitchin!!

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General Discussion / Whats better, trailer queens or street machines?

« on: October 11, 2011, 03:55:40 PM »

I'm selling a car on another thread, and an interesting subject has been raised. So what do the experts think? Is the best camaro one thats driven and enjoyed, or one thats preserved and shown?

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 COPO RS Camaro for sale $100,000.00

« on: October 10, 2011, 12:06:35 PM »

Good morning. I've thought about posting on ebay. I dont know. Looks like a bit of a hassle. The sea of clones kinda takes the pizaaz out of seeing a real car. When I got the car, my intent was to build a driver. Then I found out it was a copo and that limited what i could do with it, but i still intended on driving it. Since I didnt have the original engine, I took a few liberties with that, at least temporarily. The way i see it, you either have the right engine or you dont. For the rear, I chose a new moser unit because i knew i could sell it easier if i did ever find the car's original rear end. Same for the engine. Then because of personal reasons, I never got around to doing a title search. There's about a ten year gap in ownership history that I have not yet tracked down. And none of those components are original. The carb is a quickfuel 850 custom built. The radiator is an aluminum piece with twin electric fans, but I have the harrison curved neck that was in the car when I got it. I had it checked and had a small leak repaired, its in a box - goes with the car of course. The brake booster is original. I had it restored by a guy in california. Obviously the documentation goes with the car too, along with some 1972 photos and the original owners contact info (with his permission).   

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 COPO RS Camaro for sale $100,000.00

« on: October 08, 2011, 05:10:54 PM »

Tmodel66 is correct. Neither the engine, trans nor rear-end are original. I do have what I believe to be the original driveshaft and flywheel. I also have the protect-o-plate verifying what the car is, plus old photos given to me by the original purchaser. The guy still lives in the same house as when he bought the car from Gene Snow's north texas dealership, on July 17, 1969, the day after the Apollo 11 launch. He was just back from vietnam. Pretty cool. Anyway, please post if there are any questions. This is kind of a hasty decision for me and I left alot out of the 4-sale ad. 

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 COPO RS Camaro for sale $100,000.00

« on: October 08, 2011, 04:31:57 AM »

Here's a few photos I had on hand.

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General Discussion / 1969 COPO RS Camaro for sale $100,000.00

« on: October 07, 2011, 11:45:33 PM »

The orange 1969 camaro copo rs is up for sale. See the thread "COPO?" from July 2006. This is that car. All the stuff from the divorce makes it just too hard to hang on to. $100,000.00 firm. You can offer more if you want, but I wont take a penny less. I dont like haggling. I hope Im not violating CRG rules by advertising a car for sale like this. About the car: The body is solid and the hugger orange paint came out really nice. Its straight and stock and it glows. I did all the work myself and would classify it as my amateur effort but better than alot of the work people hire out. I've been working on these cars for 25 years, but im a lawyer, not a certified bodyman or mechanic. I'll post some pictures on here when I figure out how. Interior is stock and complete but for the dash pad. Standard black buckets, console with guages. Engine is a souped up 496. Really nice piece with aluminum heads, etc. The car hauls butt and so does the gas guage, or it would if it worked! 4-speed borg warner t-10 works great. Rear end is a new drum-to-drum moser 12-bolt with 3:42 gears. If you're still interested, e-mail me at rehctelfnod@gmail.com and I will send any picture you want or answer any question. Nobody's going to steal it, but Im not trying to stick anybody either.  Thanks.



Don 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Rear axle tube codes and engine codes

« on: August 10, 2011, 04:28:50 AM »

Doh!! Wishful thinking on my part! As always, thank you for your expertise and insight.

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Decoding/Numbers / Rear axle tube codes and engine codes

« on: August 09, 2011, 10:10:08 PM »

Hello everyone! It's been a while since I was on here, but I have a question for the experts.

A little background: I bought a 69 camaro back in 2006 which turned out to be a COPO/RS according to experts on this site. I still have the car, and the restoration is almost complete, but on hold for a bit due to my recent divorce. Anyway, I have not yet found the original engine, trans or rear end for my car (all that stuff was missing when I got it), but I do have the protect-o-plate which has the numbers for those components. The number on my p.o.p. for my missing engine is T0522MN, and the number for my missing rear axle is BE0610G.

Ok, today I found a blue 69 copo camaro on an auction website. See http://www.ronsusser.com/inventory.htm?id=2156  The car is advertised as a legitimate copo car and is certified by J. McNeish. The number they show for the rear axle is BE0610G, and the number they show for the engine is T0528MN (just one digit off from what's on my p.o.p.).

So the question is, could there be another 69 copo camaro with the same rear axle number as mine, and with an engine number off by just one digit? Or have I just found the original engine and rear axle for my car? As always, any help is greatly appreciated.

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General Discussion / 1969 Camaro copo/rs fair market value

« on: December 08, 2010, 02:49:55 PM »

Good morning everyone. I was hoping to gain a little insight on the current fair market value of copo camaros, specifically ones without the original drivetrains.

Earlier this year, a 1969 fathom green copo/rs camaro sold at barrett jackson in scottsdale, arizona, for $150,700.00. Assuming that is an accurate gauge for copo/rs fair market value in 2010, does anybody have an educated guess about what that same car might have sold for if, for instance, the car had non-original engine, transmission and rear-end?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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General Discussion / Gene Snow??

« on: March 05, 2010, 07:41:06 PM »

I recently found out that the original owner of my 1969 camaro purchased it new off of a north-texas car lot owned by Gene Snow. Anybody have information about Gene Snow and the car lot(s) he owned back in the sixties in Texas? Thanks. 

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General Discussion / Re: Texaco Crushes a 68!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

« on: November 29, 2007, 04:47:58 PM »

Does anybody think the texaso Camaro crush scene is computer animation? Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but toward the end of the wrecking yard scene, when the steel jaws are lifting the Camaro upward, it looks like there's a blur in the stainless steel trim around the back glass - like a computer graphics glitch. I've seen the commercial several times during NASCAR races. Any computer experts out there who have seen this commercial?

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General Discussion / Re: HELP!!! WHO MAKES THE BEST REPRODUCTION QUARTER PANNELS 69 CAMARO???

« on: November 29, 2007, 04:29:18 PM »

2 companies in the world make 67-69 Camaro quarter panels, Dynacorn (DII) and Golden Legend (GL). Both companies are foreign. Middle-man companies like Classic Industries, YearOne and Goodmark all buy their quarters from either DII or GL, with their label printed on the box. GL fits better than DII. Individuals cannot buy directly from GL, but a savvy individual can request GL and most suppliers will acommodate. good luck on your Camaro.

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Decoding/Numbers / POP number

« on: June 27, 2007, 04:03:22 PM »

I got a good lead on the possible whereabouts of the original engine for my 69 camaro. My car has the protect-o-plate. Is the number for the engine on the POP the same as would be on the front pad of the engine block? As always, any help is appreciated!

Don

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Originality / How many 1969 COPO Camaros are left?

« on: May 07, 2007, 07:28:03 PM »

I have read on this site and others that GM built approximately 1,015 COPO Camaros in 1969 with the iron 427. Does anybody know more or less how many are still around?