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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: July 13, 2018, 12:19:19 AM »
Nice!   What sort of finish did you apply to the clip?

The clip was vapor blasted, so its unplated steel, then treated with rust preventative like Boeshield.

Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: July 12, 2018, 02:18:22 PM »
Here is an original clip (now restored) that I located for my project:

Restoration / Re: 1969 Z/28 Radiator Core - Source?
« on: July 10, 2018, 01:35:22 AM »
Rick's now offers these repro's.  Anyone know if they are as good as advertised ?
Didn't check them all, but for every type of radiator offered in the list that I clicked on via that link, they all said 'availability: discontinued'.
I'd suggest Eckler's was previously sourcing these from Heartbeat City, as far as I know they are the only manufacturer licensed to reproduce parts with the 'HARRISON' logo.
Ties in with Lloyd's comment in the original post, that even HBC has no current stock.

Tim, I noted that HBC is out of stock on the 3 row radiator cores, they currently list the full Harrison licenced radiator as “in stock” : The site image has the watermark “US Radiator”. 

Restoration / Re: 1969 Z/28 Radiator Core - Source?
« on: July 06, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
That's helpful, thanks Hans.

Restoration / Re: 1969 Z/28 Radiator Core - Source?
« on: July 06, 2018, 02:53:15 PM »
Thanks for the ideas and input, seems Tanks 'N Tabs in Nashville is no longer in operation. Tim, I browsed the web site for Glen-Ray Radiators in WI and quickly concluded they are a Mopar-only shop...reading on, they make passing reference they also do rad work for other muscle cars so I called.  I spoke with the shop owner, Bob Schirmer who told me that Mopar is their bread and butter however specialty shops like theirs  (read: attention to detail and quality) are becoming harder to find so demand has enabled them to branch out to service other marques and they routinely do GM and Ford work. Bob said that he's been getting several Shelby rads in recently as the word has spread in that hobby community. He seemed knowledgeable about the details I asked about and can source GM OEM style 3 row cores so I'm going to send him both my rad and heater core. He was insistent that as a they are a full service shop they will also body-work the tanks as needed to address dents etc as too often what they receive from customers following body shop repairs needs correction. I will post more on this as progress continues .   

My original UH Code Radiator, CB Tank & Tag, dated "B" February

OE Style Fins / spacing

Restoration / 1969 Z/28 Radiator Core - Source?
« on: July 05, 2018, 12:13:13 AM »
I am trying to locate a new, replacement 3 row, 20 3/4" radiator core for my 1969 Z/28 project with OE style fins that will pass judging. I plan to re-use the original dated Harrison tanks and channels however need a core. I checked Heartbeat City and they have no stock and are back-ordered. I searched CRG threads and didn't come up with much.  Does anyone have a source for an original style Z/28 radiator core?

Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: July 03, 2018, 04:43:19 PM »
Lloyd, just noticed a BU rear listed on ebay, has a frame-mounting type of retainer clip in this location - similar to the one Rick (HOT302) posted back on page 1....... although it's not bolted up.

Thanks Tim. For the sake of another data point I'm adding photos of the eBay listed diff. The seller ( BDCAMARO ) states "Original 1969 Camaro Z28 L78 BU 12 Bolt Posi Rear End All original as it came on the GM assembly line...with original dated GM 3:73 gears and Eaton position unit....". IMO the diff appears reasonably original except maybe the axle vent.


Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 26, 2018, 08:09:14 PM »
Hans, good question. As the car will be judged I don’t want to defend a seemingly “non-normative” part or worse take a points deduction and be informed of that deduction once judging results are received following the event with no ability to appeal (see Chick’s judging experience). In the Camaro hobby there are no judging guides/manuals so we rely on the knowlege of individual judges. To de-risk judging, where I have found non standard parts (or finishes etc) that I believe to be original (another example is the wheel well plugs) I have decided to replace them with the generally accepted standard part. Replacing the brake line clip is an example of that approach.

Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 26, 2018, 02:14:42 PM »
I posted a Parts Wanted ad on SYC for a clip in mint condition which I haven't located yet however for reference I'm adding the following photos that were posted:

Restoration / Re: Upper A-arm Splash Shields
« on: June 25, 2018, 03:11:15 PM »

Vendor: Restoration Specialties
Part #: MAT014-WS  (All Black Rubber; 1/16" Thick Rubber With Fibers Used On Splash Aprons, A-Arms & Wheel Wells; 43" Wide)

As a follow-up, I received my order of this material from Restoration Specialties late last week. The formulation must have changed since others have ordered/used it - the material I received has a gloss finish with no visible fibers, its reminds me of a thick pool liner. NOT suitable as an OEM substitute for inner fender splash guards. Disappointing.   

Originality / Re: Rust prevention on bare steel parts
« on: June 25, 2018, 02:18:18 PM »
For those of you who have experience with Dri-Touch or Sharkhide,

1. What is the drying time?  and
2. What is the resulting gloss / sheen when dry?

Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 22, 2018, 07:01:56 PM »
Just checked my car, and it's 0319-dated 12 bolt has exactly the same clip as the one Hans pictured, it also appears to have the same stamping (although can't be sure without removing it, was lying on my back with a flashlight....).

"was lying on my back with a flashlight...."   Thanks Tim - the things we do for the hobby!

Originality / Re: Seat belt buckle dates?
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:58:13 PM »
From my research including discussions with 2 seat belt restorers, only the webbing had a date code label, stamps that appeared on buckles (including D rings and Anchors) were production lot or run numbers and don't decode using any date scheme. It is possible the manufacturers kept records of the date ranges for each buckle/ D ring / anchor run however that information has not been published to my knowledge.

Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:34:32 PM »
This brake line clip is from my shop partner's (PaulOlds) 1968 Z/28 (Norwood, April build). The car was raced extensively by its previous owner so I was surprised to see the clip was still there and hadn't been tossed. The diff was painted at some point along with the clip.


Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 15, 2018, 04:13:36 AM »
Hans, I’m reasonably confident based on the evidence that my diff and the rear brake lines had never been apart or serviced and therefore assembly-line original. The blue dyed brake line clip used appears to be one of 4 variants posted here.  Is it possible the diff-specific clip (per yours) and standard in-line brake clips were interchangeably used? Would sure like to see more original examples.

Agree.  I see no reason to believe its not original, especially since the other brake line clips are original.   My best guess, based on #17 on the rear axle cutaway View C for the HD Axle drawing on page  65 of the AIM, is that for whatever reason there was a mid-year production change.  Unfortunately, in the notes block below where the #17 is referenced in the revision block, the actual date of the change is not legible.

Have you figured out yet a way to replicate the translucent blue dye on the brake line clips??

Hans, I haven’t tackled the blue dye challenge as yet. Chick did some good trailblazing on this during his 68Z restoration project however I may try some additional techniques. Do you have some ideas?

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