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Originality / Re: Opinions on originality
« on: April 20, 2018, 03:46:50 PM »
Tim, this set appears cobbled together, the load rest appears correct and it has the usual stamping, the base is not nor is the jacking mechanism, both are incorrect. The photo doesn't show enough detail to assess the mast (although the trapezoid shape is typically correct). The shape of the jack handle looks OK however the photo detail is inadequate.   

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1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N47515x - Z28 engine
« on: April 09, 2018, 12:38:40 AM »
Usually they put blocks in a forge and then weld with nickel rod.

How are they going to repair this one?
No near term plans to repair the block.  It will be shelved in hopes of hearing from the owner of the original, matching chassis 68 Z. 

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1968 - Orphans / Re: 18N47515 V011MO - Z28 engine
« on: April 08, 2018, 02:58:31 PM »
Block was purchased by my shop partner for his 68 Z (not its original engine), manafuxing revealed a main web crack. The block is repairable. Below is a photo of the stamp:     

 

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Originality / Re: 1969 camaro RS Back-up light ?
« on: March 19, 2018, 11:03:52 PM »
#10.

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Originality / Re: 1969 camaro RS Back-up light ?
« on: March 17, 2018, 02:47:45 PM »





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Originality / Re: 1969 camaro RS Back-up light ?
« on: March 15, 2018, 03:39:12 PM »
Yes please provide more detailed pictures and the size etc....
Thanks very much for your time and help.....

I'll post more photos.

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Originality / Re: 1969 camaro RS Back-up light ?
« on: March 08, 2018, 03:23:36 PM »
Photos from my (former) 4C Norwood RS/Z survivor. Screws and clips would have been clear zinc or silver cad plated. I also have a set from my current RS/Z project car that have been removed if you need more detailed photos or size.   






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Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:47:17 PM »
We use these on Navy Ships (Submarine & Carrier) components as FME enclosures (Foreign Material Exclusion).

https://www.caplugs.com/ergonomic-pull-tab-plug-ecp
CAPLUGS has been in business for decades

I did not see the smaller sizes listed but I bet they make them.

I will post my Z bar plug after I clean up he unit.

JIM

Thanks Jim, very interesting. Caplugs was a supplier to GM in 1968/1969 (and likely before and beyond that period) as I have seen their branded plugs used in the firewall, wheel wells and cowl areas. Will have to dig further to see if they currently make a suitable z-bar plug in red or orange however the order page link you provided states the plugs are color coded by size - might be a crap shoot.   

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Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:43:26 PM »
Bill & Gary, thanks for the photos, very helpful intel and a good addition to the CRG knowledge database!
Lloyd, to know last year while at Legends judging about the orange plug installed in our Z-bar vs. a grease zerk I explained what I had found in research. There was no deduction on my final sheet. Bill had helped me before from what he had on his and a good friend gave me an original but the plug was very brittle and cracked but it gave me enough to find a similar plug as shown. As you started found original with the plug and had that confirmed by a knowledgeable friend. I do believe there were some different type plugs used. What I used looked like Bill and Gary's but its more red then orange but putting it in the sun for awhile softens the color to look more correct. I had to laugh as one of the pictures of a NOS piece I had also saved from an ebay ad. They must have had that on sale for a very long time. LOL Our 68Z will be in the "Class of 68" at MCACN this year so hopefully see you and Mike again. 

Good to know Chick, thanks. I was able to locate a plug from an early NOS z bar which I hope to extricate and put to use that has the cross bar detail however not the extended tab and is definitely orange vs red. MCACN remains on my annual must-attend list.   

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Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:29:40 PM »
Bill & Gary, thanks for the photos, very helpful intel and a good addition to the CRG knowledge database!

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Originality / Re: Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 01, 2018, 06:44:35 PM »
Hi Lloyd
The plug in mine is like the corvette one with no center. I dont remember if it had letters on it. Chick and i discussed this once, maybe he still has the pictures i sent him

Thanks Bill, is your plug orange or red (per the Corvette plug)? It appears orange in the photo. 

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Originality / Z-Bar / Clutch Bellcrank Plug
« on: February 01, 2018, 05:00:02 PM »
From my research, at the time of vehicle delivery the clutch bellcrank or Z-bar had a plastic plug inserted in the center shaft hole that was intended for a grease fitting. During routine service the plug was replaced with a zerk fitting to allow the Z-bar pivot points to be lubricated from inside the shaft. I am trying to determine what the factory Camaro original plastic plug looked like and if were there variations of the style of plug used and differences between Norwood and Van Nuys plants? 1964-1981 Corvettes used a red plastic plug (see photo) which is reproduced (it is NCRS judged). From my research I have seen 4 variations of the plug; NOS Z-bars use an 1. orange plug with a center cross bar (likely so it can be easily removed with pliers) 2. orange plug with a tab. 3. orange (red?) plug with no tab or cross bar and 4. the
Corvette version in red Does anyone have an original Gen 1 Camaro plug?

NOS Z-Bar with Plug: orange with cross bar (source: eBay)


NOS Z-Bar with Plug: orange with tab (source:eBay)


NOS Z-bar with Plug: orange, no tab or cross bar (source: HBC)


1964-1981 Corvette Z-Bar Plug: red, reverse view  (source: Paragon)
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Originality / Re: 1969 RS Headlight Bucket Shim
« on: November 21, 2017, 05:58:21 PM »
I attended the MCACN show in Chicago this past weekend and saw Mark B's LOS built 1969 RS/SS that was a candidate for Vintage Certification. This is an original car with no apparent previous front end damage. As shown in the photo below, the original RS headlight bucket shims appear to be similar to those in the photos posted by Rick (HOT302) albeit with a less angular shoulder.








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Originality / Re: 69 Camaro Rear Wheel Well Plugs
« on: August 18, 2017, 03:56:23 PM »
My 12B Norwood 69 SS. Looks like the Caplug type. Hope this helps.

John

Thanks John, first example I've seen of the Caplug type plug used in addition to my 69. Thought it might be an outlier.

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Originality / Re: 69 Camaro Rear Wheel Well Plugs
« on: August 18, 2017, 02:24:54 PM »
1968 LOS 12D
Only shot I could find from Teardown, I however have a baggie marked rear wheel well plugs that has a combination of the two styles.

I was not sure "IF" your title was for 69 info (data) only, but then you posted a 68 so I figured I would add this photo.

Jim

Good observation Jim, as I wan't seeing many contributions of '69 examples I included a '68.

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