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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: Today at 04:23:58 PM »
D80 was included with Z/28 equipment as of early April 1969.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« on: December 08, 2018, 03:04:21 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-Z28/173680473800?hash=item287029b6c8:g:goIAAOSwnWpcCqXQ:rk:8:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124379N666745

From the ad:

"ALL NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, IT HAS THE ORIGINAL DZ 302 THAT WAS REBUILT AT THE TIME ,ALSO THE ORIGINAL M21 MUNCIE THAT WAS REBUILT , AS WAS THE REAR END..."

That VIN was final-assembled on or about July 8, 1969

Claimed engine date is February 6; 152 days prior. Trans is dated Dec 27, 1968 [not 69 as stated]; 193 days prior. Axle date is close but may not be OE to this car.

Body tag has errors; 07C would be the third week of July. Norwood was shut down July 14-Aug 11.

Not its 1st rodeo:

https://www.camaros.net/forums/15-tag-team/242274-cowl-tag-1969-z28.html

CAR SPEAKS FOR ITSELF

It sure does!



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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: December 08, 2018, 02:17:36 PM »
Sold for the BIN.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: December 07, 2018, 09:07:26 PM »
I had the Citation '81-'87 and put 100k on it. Had a few repairs but not much. My '85 Pontiac 6000STE, another story. Worst car I ever owned.

I believe several manufacturers do at least some build-to-stock. With limited color/trim selection and no more discrete options, not that risky. At one time Kia did that; a dealer told me they got whatever was sent. 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: December 07, 2018, 07:25:30 PM »
Are you saying that Chevy may have installed ZL2 hoods on late production camaros (even if not ordered?) simply to trim down the inventory??   Are there documented examples of this happening?

No. Every car was built as ordered by the dealer unless certain equipment was no longer available. I ordered a 1981 Citation with swing-out rear windows and it arrived w/o as the option had been cancelled after the order was placed.
Hard to believe, but Chrysler once built cars on spec and stored them until a dealer agreed to take it, once reason they went bust.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: December 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM »
For the same reason. I worked in automotive supply chain and the last thing you want is obsolete production inventory at the end of a MY. Some of it can be more work than it is worth to move into service stock and gets scrapped.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chevy notified dealers during October that ZL2 stock had been exhausted and orders specifying it would be cancelled or built without. That type of notification was common for certain interior trim near the end of a MY. ZL2 had more parts than you might be aware of.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: interesting but rough...
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:03:56 PM »
A friend bought Z/28 N711509 new, same deal. U16, standard hood, X77. Maybe out of parts.

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Decoding/Numbers / interesting but rough...
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:38:24 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-2dr-Coupe-Z28/202528283274?hash=item2f27a05a8a:g:Du4AAOSw6X1cCiim:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr

Has the very rare 6500/8000 tach/fuel gauge and the axle is still there. But short of getting it for much less than the BIN, probably too rough to build.

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General Discussion / Re: BODY BROADCAST SHEET
« on: December 06, 2018, 04:57:44 PM »
Camaro plants used two: a Body Broadcast Copy [BBC] and a Chassis Broadcast Copy [CBC]. The CBC is most interesting as it has drivetrain codes.

A group of former Norwood employees spoke at a recent MCACN show. Of course someone asked about 'build sheets'. They called them 'sequence sheets' and recalled that 'de-papering' the unit was one of the last tasks on the line. Dealers occasionally found them during new car prep and few were saved.

Norwood assembly received the completed body from Fisher with most of the interior installed. The copies were generated when the body was scheduled for assembly. So, no need to remove seats or trim panels.

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General Discussion / Re: X33 Cowl tag for sale on Lancaster PA CL
« on: December 01, 2018, 07:16:26 PM »
Barnum was right.

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General Discussion / Re: X33 Cowl tag for sale on Lancaster PA CL
« on: December 01, 2018, 02:11:50 PM »
Repro tag with an obvious error.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« on: November 29, 2018, 11:23:56 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Convertible-RS-SS-396/233025071544?hash=item36416069b8:g:y-EAAOSw5iRb~0QZ:rk:28:pf:0&vxp=mtr

124679N567305

Car was final-assembled on or about December 24, 1968. That's 6 weeks prior to the release of the Z11 option.

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General Discussion / Re: BE rear end
« on: November 29, 2018, 06:11:09 PM »
I watched the vid. My guess, he was stating the code phonetically so as not to be misunderstood. He should have said 'Bravo Echo'.

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General Discussion / Re: BE rear end
« on: November 29, 2018, 01:02:16 PM »
Sounds more like BS to me.

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Restoration / Re: slip yoke for M21
« on: November 20, 2018, 01:11:47 PM »
The driveshaft used for 1969 Camaro w/Muncie 4-speed was 49.56" C-C on the U-joint trunnions. One of the several service part numbers was 3970521.

The production Z/28 driveshaft remains controversial. They are often seen with the trunnions aligned; for other Muncie applications they are offset as usual. The Assembly Manual does not list a part number. It is possible in production, Z/28s used a driveshaft balanced to a higher rpm.

For the record, 67-68 driveshafts are longer and used different trunnions. They don't interchange with '69s.

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