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Originality / 1968 "L78" Fan and PS Belts

« on: June 12, 2012, 12:19:01 AM »

Hi,

I am dressing my '66 427/425 up as an L78 in my '68 SS. I was wondering what the correct part number were for the belts. I have the L78 pulley set up on it (3906656, 3869978, 1970831, and 3873847). Are 3893254 and 3863114 correct? Other part numbers are listed on the Quanta webstie... Though, one can search and find all these other numbers (not necessarily listed as 68 Camaro parts). BTW, they are having a sale right now on belts...

I was also thinking of adding a captured belt. I saw a thread about it and it lists 3837810 with 2 possible lengths. It seems like the shorter one is the way to go.?.?

Regards,
Chris B.

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Originality / Fuzzy Logic

« on: May 18, 2012, 12:57:43 AM »

Hi. I have a 1968 coupe with deluxe interior and reveal moldings. I am going to replace my quarter window fuzzies/felts.

Over the years, I have had car parts on my xmas list. Plus, have picked up stuff along the way on my own. So, I do have a full set of felts from...the late 90s??? But they don't match my originals very well.

I checked most of the vendors. I see that they offer "original style" sets. Though, it still looks as though the inner quarter felts are not correct. The outers in my current kit aren't exactly right, either. But the current offerings state "orginal style bead" on the outers. My originals do have a sort of black bead vs. the new ones I have that are flat/beveled edge treatment. The thing is, there is no mention of the inner quarter felts' shape in these new "orginal style" kits. Are they a chrome bead like my originals? Or a more flat chrome piece like the door panels (which is what is in my current repro kit)?

Here are my fronts. The outers are the same as the quarter outers, as far as I can tell. The inners are like my replacements with the flat chrome piece.

Here are my quarter window outers. Notice, if you can, that there is a bead on the originals on the right vs. a bevel, then rounded over pinch on the repros on the left.

One can kind of see the bevel on the repro in these pictures. It bends away from the camera. The originals actually come towards the camera first. Then, they are a rounded over bead. Also notice the way the end is cut on the original vs. repro. The original is at an angle. The repro is a 90 degree cut.

Here are the inner quarter felts. This is where the biggest difference occurs. The repros on top have a flat chrome piece like the doors. The originals are a chrome bead (bottom).

First, are my "originals" correct? My car is pretty original in most areas. But not always... If they are, does anyone sell a kit or at least the inner felts that are like the originals? The vendor descriptions are all over the place...

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Originality / 68 BBC Battery to Engine Ground Wire Location

« on: March 09, 2012, 07:35:18 AM »

Hi,

Where and how does the main battery ground cable attach to the engine?

The AIM only lists "V8" when mentioned in UPC 12 and C60. No specific mention/picture in the L34, L35, and L78 UPCs... I have a few pictures saved of restorations and member's cars. But no good, in focus pictures of the cable. Most do go to the water pump... I would assume that since V8 is stated, that BBC does actually go on the water pump.

If that is correct, is the cable and star washer added under the mounting bolt? Or was a stud and nut type set up used like on the alt. bracket on the other side?

Someone else started a thread on TC on the same subject. But no answers as of yet...

Thanks!
Chris B.

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1968 - Orphans / 18N347490 M-20 on eBay

« on: November 30, 2011, 04:55:16 AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-CHEVY-CAMARO-MUNCIE-4-SPEED-TRANSMISSION-3925660-M20-/120799550092?hash=item1c2036da8c&item=120799550092&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Seller: mrracing
Item number: 120799550092
Item location: Wisconsin, United States

Muncie M-20 4 speed transmission, 2-line input, 660 case, 1” pin, all numbers in the pics. 2.52 first gear, 1.88 second, 1.46 third and 1.00 fourth. You can confirm by the numbers if it fits your application. 10 spline input, 27 spline output. Case casting is 3925660 and correct tail is 3857584 - Side cover is casting number 3952648 - Bearing retainer is casting number 3915020 - Bench shifts fine in all gears. Everything looks decent inside, engagement teeth in good to decent shape and constant mesh sides are good for their age as well. Some slight patina color to the gears from sitting under a bench for so long as shown - Case and tail are in good shape with no cracks or stripped threads, except the tail has a small 3/4" notch in the webbing for shifter clearance as shown - Pics show all the numbers - VIN number is 18N347490 and date is P8S08 - Transmission appears to have been installed at the Norwood plant in a 1968 Chevy Camaro originally. Good trans to restore with a full rebuild and needs new syncros, they are very loose and one is even cracked and the shift keys are out - bearings skip and growl as well - good original core with good numbers as shown.

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1969 - Orphans / 19N686859 M-20 on eBay

« on: November 30, 2011, 04:52:06 AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CHEVY-CAMARO-MUNCIE-4-SPEED-TRANSMISSION-3925661-M20-/120799546636?hash=item1c2036cd0c&item=120799546636&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Seller: mrracing
Item number: 120799546636
Item location: Wisconsin, United States

Muncie M-20 4 speed transmission, 2-line input, 660 case, 1” pin, all numbers in the pics. 2.52 first gear, 1.88 second, 1.46 third and 1.00 fourth. You can confirm by the numbers if it fits your application. 10 spline input, 27 spline output. Case casting is 3925661 and correct tail is 3857584 - Side cover is correct with the casting number 3950306 with bolt style arms as shown. Will need a new bearing retainer, this one has big grooves from the throw-out bearing - Bench shifts fine in all gears. Everything looks decent inside, engagement teeth in good shape and constant mesh sides are good for their age as well. Case and tail are in good shape with no cracks or stripped threads, except the tail has a small 3/8" hole were someone ran a shifter mounting bracket bolt in too deep as shown. Price can be negotiated for an extra tail without a damage hole or bearing retainer. One cross member bolt also has an insert installed - Top boss of the case has some minor scratches as shown in the pics - Pics show all the numbers - VIN number is 19N686859 and date is P9P16A - Tin tag is still present and stamped 3950356 - Transmission appears to have been installed at the Norwood plant in a 1969 Chevy Camaro originally. Good core trans to restore in need of a full rebuild with new syncros - all original with good numbers as shown.

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1969 - Orphans / 19N630543 on eBay - COPO!!!

« on: November 30, 2011, 04:48:36 AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-COPO-CAMARO-427-425HP-3963512-ORIGINAL-MN-CODED-ENGINE-/120819303719?hash=item1c21644527&item=120819303719&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Seller: bb67
Item number: 120819303719
Item location: Columbia Station, Ohio, United States

1969 COPO CAMARO 427/425HP 3963512 ORIGINAL MN CODED ENGINE

You are considering a Original 1969 COPO Camaro 427/425Hp Engine. This Engine block casting # 3963512 dated A-4-9 (Jan. 4th,1969),. Original No restamp front pad stamped T0123MN (jan 23rd). Heads 3919840 matched dated A-16-9 (Jan 16th-1969) The vin # is stamped in the rough casting area above oil filter were block meets bellhousing. Original Vin 19N630543 This engine was running recently. What you see is what you get! Please call 1-440-748-1500 for any questions. We will not accept paypal for this item. We will ship this item. It will have to be truck shipped and there will be a crating charge. Call us to discuss. Thanks!

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Trans-Am Camaros / Seen at Thunder Hill

« on: October 25, 2011, 05:15:49 AM »

Was there with a friend and his Viper club. But made time for a few pictures of the Camaros...

cb

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Originality / Spacers between seat tracks and seat bottom?

« on: September 06, 2011, 04:02:29 AM »

I rebuilt/recovered my bucket seats and tracks. When I took the tracks off, I found some kind of spacers under the passenger's outside track. There was one regular washer under one end of the inner track. I checked the driver's side bucket. There is only ONE spacer on it!!! Are these original? What were they made of? Seems like some kind of rubber washers stacked up... 1968 SS Deluxe interior if that matters (but the seats are '67 Firebird). Thanks!

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Decoding/Numbers / Rear Seat Cover Numbers

« on: August 20, 2011, 06:47:49 AM »

I did a search on the numbers and didn't get any results. So, I thought I'd post them to see what happens...

Rear Seat Bottom cover:

Rear Seat Bottom cover number 7753575 and 7H30L1:

Rear Seat Bottom padding number 7640924:

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1968 - Orphans / 18L332095 Block on ePay

« on: May 27, 2011, 08:38:19 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-CHEVY-CAMARO-302-327-350-MOTOR-/110692307052?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c5c6906c

seller: rockey1952
Gresham, OR
$600 start

3914678
B 16 8

18L332095
V0221MA
327/210 Manual

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1969 - Orphans / 69 M21 on ebay 19L335721

« on: February 15, 2011, 07:52:02 AM »

This transmission has a RIGHT-HAND Speed "O".
Front case is # 3925660 rear case #3857584 side cover #3950306.

The NEW BEARING RETAINER is # 3915020. The Vin # 19L335721 (Built in Los Angeles)

It is dated P9B 13 B.

Seller: kajunjon-whitneytx
Whitney, TX

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-4-speed-Muncie-M-21-Transmission-Camaro-Chevelle-/360343201109?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e620e555

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1969 - Orphans / 19N658191 DZ 302 on eBay

« on: November 30, 2010, 03:14:25 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Z28-AUTHENTIC-ORIGINAL-DZ-302-ENGINE-W-VIN-NUMBER-/120653955943?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ACamaro%7CYear%3A1969&hash=item1c17894367

Seller: aafa701
BIN: $10,000
Location: Sonora, CA

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General Discussion / For the Corvette guys

« on: July 18, 2010, 05:10:44 PM »

Found a "orphan" motor on craigslist. Maybe someone knows of a Corvette orphan area?

http://modesto.craigslist.org/pts/1827050902.html

This is a good running motor that I purchased from a friend.
3858174 says it's a 66 small journal 300 H.P.
J256 is for 10/25/66
FI026HE is on front of block
6106860 also on front of block
call Bob (209)848-2715

•Location: Oakdale

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