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General Discussion / JL8 Z28
« on: July 18, 2016, 09:39:45 PM »

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1969 - Orphans / 124379N569809
« on: November 27, 2014, 05:04:29 PM »
Anybody have any info on this car ? I have a friend that bought it new and has paperwork.

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1969 - Orphans / 124679L529151 protecto plate.
« on: January 26, 2013, 03:23:11 PM »
I have the plate for this car.

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General Discussion / Earliest known L78 Camaro
« on: May 21, 2012, 10:56:49 PM »
There is a locked thread from 2007 where we had a heated discussion on the earliest known L78 Camaro. I thought it was the 67 Pace Car I used to own. Nobody would divulge the exact trim-vin details on the Grumpy Jenkin's car that was the other known early car. I had a chance to look at Grumpys car this weekend and noted the trim-vin #'s.

Grumpys vin..................N197055
My old 67 Pace car vin is N194600

Grumpy trim tag build week   03D
Pace car..............................03C

Grumpy's body #...............97737
Pace car...........................93453

Old thread.        http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1667.0

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Originality / Body color on firewall
« on: December 29, 2010, 03:30:33 PM »
Somebody posted pics awhile back of their firewall being body color instead of being blacked out but I can't find the thread. I did find this pic on the site though and it also looks body color to me. Maybe this is old news ? Also crayon on top of the firewall paint. Maybe I need more morning coffee.

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Originality / 67 Pace cars
« on: February 27, 2007, 10:20:35 PM »
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Jeff says the 2 Pace cars did not leave the factory with L78's so they are not L78's. They were built as L78's and I have the GM work order calling for them to be built as L78's. The work order then called for them to be deliverd to Chevrolet's engineering department. Then it calls for them to change the powertrain combination from "as delivered status" to RPO L35-M40.
  The above GM statement should settle any outlandish debate as to how they were delivered. They were delivered as L78-4 speeds. That was the "as delivered status". It was delivered to the engineering department as a L78.  The protecto-plate for my Pace car is for a L78 4 speed. Where Jeff tries to draw the line as to what the car was built as is simply to try to lessen what the car is because he has a problem with me. He also states there were 20 L78 Camaro's built before the Pace cars. Really ? Is there any fact to this or is he just making stuff up ? Does CRG have any info on these 20 L78 Camaro's built before the Pace cars ? If anyone thinks Jeff has made his posts because he really believes they were not L78 cars I would sure like to hear it.
 In regards to the discussion as to Grumpys car being the first L78 I will still assume the Pace cars were first based on the build date on the trim tags being a week earlier and the vins being about 2400 cars earlier.
  It would be nice to hear the CRG opinion or other members opinions.

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