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Decoding/Numbers / What do you think of this stamp?
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:15:25 AM »


Ok, this is a bit of a trick question. I know the stamp is a fake. I am just curious if it was done so bad on purpose to prove a point, or if they think it looks genuine. It is on an insurance company display vehicle

General Discussion / Camaro auction on BaT brings out the folklore.
« on: June 12, 2018, 10:27:52 PM »
A recent Camaro auction on BaT sure brought out a lot of old Camaro stories in the comments section. This one about the factory rep coming out and restamping a 1969 DZ block with a 1968 VIN sounds a bit far fetched, but you never know! Well, Kurt S. might know.

HarryQ  326
My first new car was a 68 Z28, this color, 3.70 rear axle, M22 rock crusher close ratio, manual steering, AM/FM, no console, ordered from the Chevrolet dealer where local Waterford Hills racer Tom Swindell was a salesman. My dad, then with GM, ordered it on his employee discount and, I was about to graduate from college.

Within three thousand miles I had bent two push rods. same cylinder. After the second, the dealer service manager accused me, politely, of over-revving it.

Shortly after my dad told me he was in a meeting sitting next to Jim Musser, then assistant chief engineer for Chevrolet. He relayed the story about my bent pushrods. Jim asked the same question about was I over-revving, and satisfied with my dad’s answer, said he would look into it. My dad called me soon after saying they wanted to look at my engine.

A few days later I got a call from the service manager at the dealership. “We have an engine for your car.” I left it for a couple of days, and when I picked up the car, the service manager told me what I had. It was a 1969-spec DZ302, which had 4-bolt main bearing caps. But the best part owas he told me was that the GM employee who delivered the engine and supervised the swap had brought with him the number dies to stamp in my original VIN on the blank machined area of the block.

I got drafted shortly thereafter, and ended up the remainder of two years after basic training at Aberdeen Proving Ground, with a PFC wage less than my car payment. My wife, who found a teaching job, made enough to allow us to make the payments.

Never ever had a problem with the internals. I added an Addco rear sway bar, and on weekends I enjoyed driving it on twisty paved roads of Southeast Pennsylvania near APG.

I got out of the service and joined a struggling small company in Ann Arbor, with no savings. After 103 thousand miles on that same, likely hand-built motor, the air cleaner stud backed itself out of the carb, the wing nut unscrewed itself, and the stud slipped into one of the cylinders. I didn’t have money to repair it, but I had a buddy who swapped me even for a working 307 4-barrel engine he had pulled out of his 1969 Camaro when he swap in something hotter, and over a weekend we performed the change. My now destroyed one of one 4-bolt main numbers-matching 1968 Z28 went on several thousand miles until I sold it for enough to make the down payment on my next car.

My buddy rebuilt the Z28 motor to put in his boat.

Here is the auction. Ended at $50,500. A nice looking car, but a bit higher than I expected for a suspected restamp.

Decoding/Numbers / Original X33 trimtag?
« on: August 24, 2017, 06:37:41 PM »
I saw this tag on a car for sale by a very well informed seller. It looks like a reproduction to me.

Opinions please?

NOR154686 12B X33

I am always looking for a nice 1968 N30 steering wheel and have seen hundreds of them. I have never seen one like this.  It's either a very rare item, or it was custom made. I am leaning towards custom made. Thoughts?

I have never seen hounds tooth called Dalmatian and its spelled wrong so I suspect this is a reproduction window sticker.

Also, the trim tag is coded for special paint, but I cant figure out what code HA would be on the WS.



Decoding/Numbers / Loose trim tag and VIN for sale on ebay
« on: April 10, 2016, 11:32:26 PM »
Loose trim tag and VIN for sale on ebay.

NOR213535  VIN not visible

Seller also has some other Camaro stuff for sale as well.
Care for some old crusty springs for $1200?

Site Comments/Discussion / Warning: Replying to old topics
« on: September 27, 2015, 06:29:36 PM »
I just noticed that the site warns you before replying to old topics. Very helpful to newbies, too bad TC doesn't have that. Good job guys!

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Decoding/Numbers / Nice paper work collection on this 1968
« on: September 20, 2015, 06:23:35 PM »
Nice original looking paper work on this 1968 convertible.

It's not often you see window sticker, POP, Body and chassis broadcast sheets all together.

Interesting that the trim tag is 01D and the engine is 0209. Any explanation?

1968 - Orphans / 124378N445313 Z/28 Engine for sale
« on: July 02, 2015, 12:29:37 AM »
1968 Camaro Z/28 VIN 124378N445313 Engine code V0529MO spotted for sale at the Lockport NY swap meet on 6/27/15.

The site appears all different today. Major format change? Did I miss a memo? Something wrong with my browser? Am I in the wrong dimension? Maybe it's just me...

General Discussion / Documented 1970 RS Z/28 National Press Camaro
« on: November 08, 2014, 09:18:49 PM »
I saw this car on my local Craigslist and thought it looked pretty real. There are often stories about cars being special built for certain events, but this one seems to be documented via the build sheet:

1970 Chevrolet Camaro RS / Z28
 GM National Press Showing / Magazine Cover Car

 This 1970 Camaro Z28 was part of a "National Press showing" in February of '70 and was featured on the cover of at least one automotive publication (see details below) as well as appearing in "Camaro Muscle Portfolio" published by Brooklands Books in 1992. Spending it's entire life in Southern California, the car is in exceptional condition. Originally finished in "Citrus Green Poly", the current owner performed a minor restoration in 2007 and had the body refinished in the factory-correct "Forest Green Poly" with black stripes. A 1970 date-coded 400 cid Chevrolet small block was also installed in addition to numerous upgrades and optional equipment including an RS Front Spoiler. Aside from the original Production Broadcast / Build Sheet, (which states this vehicle is to be used for press purposes), documentation also includes original parts and repair receipts dating back to the late 1970's.


 In late January 1970, Camaro #3475 pulled out of the GM Assembly Plant in Van Nuys, California three days ahead of it's scheduled February 3rd production date. Specially ordered with both the Z22 Rally Sport Package and Z28 Special Performance Option, the "Citrus Green Poly" & black striped Camaro had already been reserved by Hansen Chevrolet in West Los Angeles. However, before the dealer took full possession of the car, it was fitted with a manufacturer plate (34F 015) and transported to the new car prep lot along with five other Z28's in various color schemes.

 Over the course of the next two weeks, members of the automotive press (including Motor Trend, Car & Driver, Hot Rod and Motorcade) made arrangements to conduct extensive reviews of the new Z28's and either specified or were assigned a particular car. White vinyl adhesive numbers were applied to the front and rear windows of each car with a corresponding spec sheet listing specific trim, options, etc. The "Citrus Green Poly" Camaro was identified as #3 in the group and initially assigned to Motorcade magazine, which featured it on the cover of their May issue. GM Heritage Center has confirmed that only one "Citrus Green Poly" Z28 was part of the 1970 National Press Showing in Southern California and all specs listed in the Motorcade article exactly match this vehicle's original build sheet. The Heritage Center archivists are also in the process of decoding the specially-assigned manufacturer license plates from the 1969-71 period.

It's too bad it's not painted the original color and it's missing the LT1 engine  :(

VIN: 124870L503475

General Discussion / Nice documents on this 1968 RS/SS 396
« on: June 30, 2014, 06:36:19 PM »
Not often you find a car where the owner seems to have saved everything like this one.
Did the dealer always take a POP imprint when the car was in for service, or did this car have a lot of warranty work done?

Perhaps CRG can use some of these docs for their files. They all look legit to me. What do you guys think, legit or not?

If you have or had an original 1969 Z/28 and know the transmission type and axle ratio please answer.

The 3.73:1 rear axle was the ratio you got unless something else was checked on the order form.
The other axle options were economy, performance, and special where you specified in the ratio.

What percentage of 1969 Z/28's had the M20, M21, and M22 transmissions?

Also what percentage had an optional rear axle ratio, i.e. other than 3.73:1?

It seems that there should be a percentage approximation somewhere on CRG but I am unable to find it.

Decoding/Numbers / Canadian POP reissue
« on: July 03, 2013, 04:20:07 PM »
Saw this POP over at Team Camaro.
Is this the type reissued to the second owner under warranty?
Must have been one of the first V8's into Canada with such a low VIN

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