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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 - # 55
« on: December 08, 2022, 04:57:52 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 - # 55
« on: December 05, 2022, 11:58:42 PM »
Yes, it is on display at the Brothers Collection.

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 - # 55
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:38:43 PM »
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General Discussion / 1969 ZL1 - # 55
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:38:10 PM »
I was lucky to see # 55 of 69 ZL1 yesterday.   7,700 miles.  Amazing car.


Just thought I would share with the group.

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I agree with the above, but if you REALLY want a new radiator, there's none better than DEWITT'S. I know it's aluminum, which is NOT what you're looking for, but it appears completely stock if you get the "Black Ice" coating. And it goes without saying, since it's an aftermarket radiator, it won't have the "HARRISON" logo tanks, so if you want to keep those then you'll have to get your radiator repaired, buy a VERY expensive reproduction radiator, or look for an even MORE expensive NOS radiator!
Ed


Thank you for the recommendation.  I am not too worried about the Harrison logo.  I just don't want a radiator that is very apparent to be aftermarket such as some "fits-all" units can be.  This car is a driver and I am not worried about it being exactly correct.  The car will remain in it's stock appearance and it wouldn't look right to have a radiator that didn't resemble an original unit within reason, I am not going to get too caught up in the exact details or date codes. 

Do big block, small block and 6 cylinder radiators all mount in the same locations with the same mounting brackets?  Also, after looking around I have noticed that the big blocks have a bent upper water neck, but the Dewitt radiator doesn't show that.  Are all water necks the same between big block, small block and 6 cylinder radiators?  Sorry for what is probably obvious questions, but these details are different on the other cars I have in the shop, so I just wanted to ask before I assume something.

Thank you for all of your help with this.   :)

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Read this: http://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml
It's a 2 core and a V8 rad is also a 2 core.
Cracked?? What's that mean?

Thank you.

The side of the tank where it joins the core is splitting.  I think the sodering is coming apart.  I guess I could repair it, but I thought if there is an upgrade, now would be the time to do it.

It looks like I would like to upgrade to a big block with AC radiator, 4 core, right?  Do the hoses mount up on the same sides and do the bracket work or do I need to get big block brackets?

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My Grandma's 1969 Camaro with a 6 cylinder has a crack in the original radiator and it is now time to replace it.  I am not going to get rid of it.  It will go on the shelf to keep it if I ever decide to go back to original.

I want to upgrade to a larger V8 radiator.  I don't need new old stock or date code matching.  I just need original style with excellent function.  I do not want aluminum or custom built.  I want to stay with a stock appearance.  I drive the car on sunny days and just enjoy driving it on the road and am not into concourse restoring it....yet.  Who is the best supplier to contact for an original appearing radiator?

Being that the car is originally a 6 cylinder car, it has a small radiator.  Do I need to also buy the correct mounts and brackets to accept a larger V8 radiator or will the brackets I already have work?  Do the water necks align in the same place as a V8 and a 6 cylinder?

Please excuse my basic elementary questions, I am not a Camaro guy and need help with these small easy issues.   

Thank you for your help. ~ Brian

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Brian, if you think the original hubcaps are too far gone to bring back, drop me an email.  I have quite a few decent used ones.  Good luck on preserving your Camaro! 

Kevin from NJ

Kevin, Thank you.  I will try to look at them soon.   They are somewhere in the garage.  I know I didn't throw them away, I just don't remember where I put them. 
Thank you, Brian

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Brian, if the water pump on your Camaro is original, Bryon would love the information off it.  You can post the info here...  http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12531.0

Paul

Paul,
I don't know if it is the original water pump or not.  I doubt it, but not sure.  Here are some close up photos.  I need to remove the water pump pulley to see the pump.  If it fails in the future or if something else goes wrong I will tear into it, but I am going to keep it running for right now.  I can try to get better pictures if you want.  Thank you, Brian




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If it has one it will have the VIN number typed on it . Here is a copy of one:

BULLITT65 - my car does not have that blue sticker.  What does that mean?  There is a place that looks like old glue residue, but I don't know if that is from an oil change sticker or something else. 

So there are 2 raised ribs on the door, (for sticker placement) and starting with cars delivered in September of 69 it was mandatory for them to have this door sticker with the VIN. Thats is it in a nutshell.

Your car (08A) car was most likely delivered around the second to third week of August, so most likely it never had the sticker.


thanks for looking.



Here are some photos of the inside the driver's door.  It doesn't have that blue sticker.




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Would like to see some under-hood pics, if possible, especially the smog system and alternator setup. Joe.

I took some pictures yesterday in the shop.  I am sorry about the pour lighting.  It was raining hard yesterday and I didn't want to put the car outside.  I tried to ad some more light, but I think it added more shadows.  I have some photos below, but have many more at my photobucket site.

I don't have a smog pump on this car.  My dad remembers it never having a smog pump.  My great-grandmother bought the car new in California.  She lived in California until 1976 when she moved to Redmond Oregon.  By this time my dad was 19 years old and was into cars.  He doesn't remember it ever having a smog pump when it came to Redmond and he doesn't think there would be any reason for anyone to take it off if there was one.  I can't see any evidence of where it would be installed or any plugs in the head.  I realize that California has stricter laws about smog starting in 1968.  428 Cobra Jets all had smog because of these laws.  Did they have a law that was only required on so many cubic inches??

Enjoy the photos.  Thank you, Brian

More photos
http://s42.photobucket.com/user/littlefb/library/Camaro























I did replace the carpet last summer.  That is not original.  The rest of the interior is original.






I found this under the carpet.


I also found this under the carpet.

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wow, nice car. fun fact?, my ex-wife put that exact same dent in the driver's side front fender of my "blue car". Boy was I mad. LOL.

Wow!  I bet that was not a fun day.

The story about this dent is from my Grandma always parking the car on the street in front of her house.  My Dad would always tell my Grandma to park it in the driveway but for some reason she didn't like to.  One day this dent magically appeared.  Someone hit it and never said anything.  I think it happened in 1994 or 95.

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A good body guy could fix that fender by popping it out. Wouldn't be perfect, but wouldn't need paint. And would be low cost...
I would imagine the same could be said for the wheel covers. It probably would not take much to hammer out the dents and straighten them out.
On the fender, I would just do it yourself with a rubber mallet and a body hammer and even an amatuer, like myself, could get a good bit of the dent out without repaint.
Also noticed this car is a non X11(X44). Would be nice to get some detail pics of untouched areas as so many restos add X11 components.
If you do decide to hammer out the fender and the grille is still good, not cracked, remove it before hammering or you may possibly damage it. If uncracked, the grille is a valuable piece.

ko-lek-tor - Thank you for the comments.  Yes, I agree with you and KurtS about popping out the fender dent.  It is on the list to do.  Would it be best to take the fender completly off?  I have a friend that is an amazing body man and he doesn't belive in any filler, so I will talk to him when it comes time.

Let me know which pictures of the X11 areas you want me to take?  I am going to be gone for a couple of days on a business trip, but I can take photos when I get back.

I really need to get to reading and studying up on this car.  X11, X44.....doesn't mean anything to this dumb Ford guy.  Please excuse my ignorance.  Hahah   :-)

I also notice that the hood stripe, decal, is missing but I have another quest regarding the DX-1....didn't the six bangers have the cui emblem on the front fender and therefore it should be a gap fore it on the stripe as it is on say a 350 car?

I really love the DX-1 and intend to put it on my X44 some day..... ::)
Nobody that have an answer to my quest? ;)

hgger69 - I will take some pictures of the hood this weekend.  The stripes are there on the hood, but have worn off over time.  My picture angle wasn't good to see them.



Thank you everyone for your comments.  Learning more about this car is much over due.  I should have done this 15 years ago.....I have a lot of catching up to do. 


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Those are from when my Great Grandma worked at Ford Ord in California.

A true ford guy. Cool story and car!!

Haha!  Oops.  You caught me.  Yes, she worked at FORT Ord.  Thank you for the correction.  That is what I get for trying to multi-task and not working when I should be.  Haha

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If it has one it will have the VIN number typed on it . Here is a copy of one:

BULLITT65 - my car does not have that blue sticker.  What does that mean?  There is a place that looks like old glue residue, but I don't know if that is from an oil change sticker or something else. 

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