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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Trans-Am season review

« on: May 10, 2015, 10:34:36 PM »

that's it!! thanks for some wall paper jon!!

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Trans-Am season review

« on: May 07, 2015, 10:17:10 PM »

These four pictures feature the #16 Camaro driven by Mark Donohue at the 1967 Green Valley Trans Am race.  He finished in fourth place, six laps down to the winner Dan Gurney.

Click on the corresponding link to see a larger and clearer version of each picture.

1st: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/magnify_popup.pl?imageID=94869&staticImage=C&ckon=image&alt=0
2nd: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/magnify_popup.pl?imageID=95084&staticImage=C&ckon=image&alt=0
3rd: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/magnify_popup.pl?imageID=95102&staticImage=C&ckon=image&alt=0
4th: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/magnify_popup.pl?imageID=95117&staticImage=C&ckon=image&alt=0

 some help here friends please,, there is a color picture almost just like the top pic somewhere of the Penske car in 67 in this turn at Green Valley somewhere here.  I call it the blue flash,,, but I cannot find it anywhere any help appreciated thanks

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General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,

« on: December 12, 2014, 07:20:16 PM »

  Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

There, I fixed the style problem:

I have never really supported  intolerance --- but this guy  proves the fact that there is a reason for the concept..........Just sayin

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General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,

« on: December 11, 2014, 11:27:41 PM »

 Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

 Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

 Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

 My first post was about the styling glitches,  as far as the chassis..........................
  the Camaro is technically Not a real car IMO,  ---a real one is --->  body on frame.  if I was the guy who could have made it happen back then the Camaro would have been a full framed car like the 66 chevelle,  the next best thing if I couldn't  vanquish the bean counters would have been extending the rails back to the point that the leaf springs front brackets would have been the rear ends of the rails--and if I could have done that it would have had  a 4 link and coils instead of those  single leaf jokes.

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General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,

« on: December 11, 2014, 11:22:23 PM »

Better rust protection on sheetmetal.

Personally, I've been pretty impressed by the degree of rust protection Chevy applied to the sheet metal parts.   The ONLY areas on my car which had any rust at all was under the battery (inner fender and frame rail) apparently where battery acid leaked onto the metal parts...  that isn't so bad for 45 years  IMO..     (Let's wait another 45 years and see how well the 'restored' cars do...   )

actually,  having chiseled off more than a couple  67=8 quarter panels and replaced them---There was a ribbon of  sponge foam  inserted between the wheelhouse lip and the quarter skin--apparently  to  "seal it when they were spotwelded on the assembly line,  and what it really did was wick and hold moisture--causing them to rust out even in somewhat  moist environments like Dallas Tx.  and that my friends  --was doing No one any favors

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 67-68 Los Angeles firewall piercings

« on: December 10, 2014, 01:33:17 AM »

Gents, Troy is working on a firewall report and needs some assistance.

He's found that Norwood cars follow the AIM exactly for the firewall piercings, but he's found that LA didn't always go by the book! Specifically, the manual transmission backup light wiring hole and the oil line hole for the U17 gauge option.

Therefore, anyone with an ORIGINAL UNRESTORED Los Angeles built 67 or 68 Camaro with a manual transmission (3 or 4 speed), please post a picture of your firewall. Specifically the general area where the backup light wiring hole is, but a large enough picture so he can get a reference as to other holes and components.

Also, anyone with a Los Angeles built 67 or 68 Camaro with the U17 gauge package (manual or automatic transmission), please post pictures of your firewall. Again, specifically the general area where the oil line goes through the firewall, but a large enough picture so he can get a reference as to other holes and components.

In addition, please post the year, model (Coupe or Convertible), and build date of your car, along with the Fisher Body scheduling code, so he knows when any changes that may show up took place.

Any questions, or if your picture is too large to post on site, feel free to email them directly to Troy or myself. My email address is in my profile.

Thanks

Ed

I got one  67  red convertible  --ac / 4 speed car,  problem is posting pics--my camera pics are what they are and wont post here

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General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,

« on: December 09, 2014, 11:32:14 PM »

Well..  if I had to drive a '67 or '68 (and couldn't get hold of a great '69),..    I'd probably make it similar to this one... :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvAkUupnKw



(of course, I'd probably need a little of Tim Allen's or Jay Leno's $$ to do it...  





 

OH No--Not one of YOU guys ( where's the roll eyes face) 
 Tims car- Yawn,  take a stock car--stick a plain ole 427 in it and ...Paint it Dark Green,,,?

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Green Valley Trans-Am photos

« on: December 09, 2014, 10:32:45 PM »

As mentiond in my hello thread --i was there  --5 yrs old and it imprinted on me ir-reversably,  pretty faint memories,  I knew what a mustang was--and of course a couger car was new,  but i know i remembered the blue penske  camaro making the impression on me.

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General Discussion / if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,

« on: December 09, 2014, 10:12:49 PM »

  Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 09, 2014, 09:38:11 PM »

I have gun into the first snag,  posting pics  seems i cant just shove in the card into my cheapo camera -snap away and then post,  500mb limit,,,,,,?
 not only do i disdain sports like the cowpies,,, i got No patience with digital gizmos  or playing with them  The "smart" phones--when i see one of those dweebs get creamed by a bus when they are walking along twittling with their thumbs, i wont get any satisfaction..... but i also still wont understand them.
  so why do i not have any problems posting on a garden variety Vbulliten site,,, but little snooseville ones like this always seem to have some lame arrangement throwing up hurdles  for the U -technically inclined?

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 08, 2014, 11:19:05 PM »

 Yes it seems like a pretty cool-small site.  the crowd it draws inevitably is a mix of new people to camaro's and some who have ate slept and brethed them like me for ever. and it looks like it attracts the oldest-- with the _attitude_  if you know what i mean.
 When i came out with that dana hood in 2003, I still used Hemming's.  there was some  copo yenko type collector in Florida that really thought he was the emminence authority.  he left a message on my answering machine about the part,  and a few minunetes after i walked in the house i got a call--My grandmother had passed away.  That person in my life who treated me like i was the most special human on the planet.  anyhow after i got back from the funeral , there was a curt message from the guy saying " Dont bother replying to me about that hood"  because i wasn't jonney on the spot for him.
  Even though i still an  nuts about those cars--that type of "enthusiest" is really what ruins the hobby,  I never gave a damn about nit picky  -correct  obsessed guys and the- mine is Soooooooooooo pure stuff.
 and of course i have never had any respect for "authority" figures.
  Anyhow  the dana hoods were made by Berry  fiberglass manufacturing,  and sold for 112.00 list  for either a pin on or with the liner for hinge boltup
 one  retail outfit that sold them was IECO  products in LA

http://www.corvairforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=6194


http://www.vintageracecar.com/pages/thismonth.cgi?magid=65&magiid=249

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 07, 2014, 11:46:54 PM »

The red SS350 camaro Hotrod magazine test car,  now in the peterson publishing museum--I think ( it could be in the  Vic Edilbrock  car collection) had a 3 stage test writeup , ine was a holley 3 barrel and headers swap in, I think the  stage three  was  one of the berry "plastiglass" hoods and a 396 engine swap.
  i measured by the pictures whatever i could. the hood bulge raised up 5/8"  and the front aperatures i just did as accurately as i could to the pics----but the slot edges are swept back/ following the line of the hood front edge rather than being straight across like the original.  and i did not want the stock ridge running down the middle or on the front header panel  and axed that on mine.  i did a smooth full inside liner with a hole in the middle just like a cowl hood has.  And so then 23 yrs after the bagboy saw the hotrod pics of the white dana with the bumblebee stripe tearing up the asphault at (which LA dragstrip)??
 I had my Dana F68  hood--  "instantly turns your camaro into a Jet fighter"    (smily face emoticon)

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 07, 2014, 11:33:50 PM »

Around then there was an article about Dick Gulstrand in some mag,  and of course i had known about the trick of redrilling the upper a arm mounts to dial in more caster that trans am racers did--"the Gulstrand Mod"  anyhow i called him up and asked if he would kindly send me one of his templates which he used to do for camarophiles, and i also asked him about the hood,  he sayed  "Yea--we had some outfit out here making those for us"
  so anyhow I never got to see one with my tape measure,  but bi knew it was a changed arounf 67-8 ss hood with the ornament holes smoothed of.
  I thought of  finding  hotrod mags from 67--and thats exactly what i did--the main FT Worth library branch, and started scouring for the info-and pics
  The details are,  anyone in the LA area could buy one of those hoods--and they were one of----if not THE first aftermarket part made for the just introduced Camaro.
 they were made by Barry fiberglass manufacturing company, Glendale Ca.
 they supplied them to anyone with the cabbage  -not just dana.

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 07, 2014, 11:22:43 PM »

So anyway- I was 5 yrs old when my dad took me to see  the tranz am racing at green valley, and it obviously imprinted on me in un-alterable ways  i was from then on a car nut--and a 67 or 8 was the only thing that would do,  I never gave a damn about sports.
 Now that i look back - a kid being able to get his hands on a car like that --wont happen again.
 the current camaro is a cartoon caracture of a REAL Camaro.
  the convertible hardtop dosent fit 69 cars,  even though 80 % of the parts the two cars are the same--there is no reason why the engeneers would make sure that well trim was positioned on the rear of the car the same way--there was no reason to.
     about the "dana F68' hood, i saw the first pic of a dana  while on break at the supermarket i was a bagboy at,  started that project 15 yrs later in 95, and i did not get it done til 2003.
  I never was preoccupied with trying to do a perfect copy- but before finishing the pattern i tryed to fine someone in California that had one to measure when i was out there visiting-no luck.

 

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General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas

« on: December 07, 2014, 11:11:33 PM »

Welcome to the site. So what is your current first gen ?

the 68 pictured and also a 67  i got in 94,  as far as the real camaros,  im a 7-8 guy never was crazy about the 9's